awesome Jeremy, yeah, the accompanying dvd can definitely help. we're thinking of including maybe an interesting fact sheet to friends outside of church...
it is definitely still culturally taboo to not give gifts... i wonder when we'll ever get over that... or if we just just do something in the face of that anyways...
very cool Jake. My wife and I live in a 40 year old condo that shares facilities, and a community garden with two other condos. i've never been the gardener, but we had just recently discussed being more involved with it... if it's going to help bring redemption, now I think I have to!
I just checked on the comment limit thing Jake, I think it's a glitch being worked on, hopefully it'll get fixed soon.
suburban house church movement. wow. i think you're on to something. my community has managed to stuff ourselves into a large home before... never thought of it as a movement, but you're definitely making me think!
You've got so many great ideas Jake! i've talked to people about mom & pop shops, but people love their box stores, myself sometimes included. things definitely need to move more local, while leveraging what we can globally. there's something in the suburbs, where we 'go somewhere else' and 'get'.... rather than staying and creating.
people don't often begin changing till they have to... ie. if you look at global warming, which is already a little late. i wonder if there's a way we can start revealing to church's in the suburbs that though everything may seem neat and pretty, we're in dire circumstances!
Jake thanks for the great feedback. It's interesting, even the condominiums in the urban centers now are 'gated' in many ways, from the front entrace to a person's door, there can be 5-6 different locks to get through... they're like fort knox these days!
how do we bring transformation here? I think we need a multiple route strategy... i've put some thought into converting a house, but again, those darn zoning laws. it's easy to say everyone's got to flee the suburbs and move into a commune, but I wonder if there's a way of leveraging what's there.
suburbia seems to communicate via 'networks' rather than geography... maybe there's some good in this even if people don't fully know the extent of who we are.
that above image is so disturbing to me... there's something we've got to be able to change about the actual aesthetics and physical space of our communities at the same time... I'm at a loss of what's really doable at the moment though...
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it is definitely still culturally taboo to not give gifts... i wonder when we'll ever get over that... or if we just just do something in the face of that anyways...
suburban house church movement. wow. i think you're on to something. my community has managed to stuff ourselves into a large home before... never thought of it as a movement, but you're definitely making me think!
You've got so many great ideas Jake! i've talked to people about mom & pop shops, but people love their box stores, myself sometimes included. things definitely need to move more local, while leveraging what we can globally. there's something in the suburbs, where we 'go somewhere else' and 'get'.... rather than staying and creating.
people don't often begin changing till they have to... ie. if you look at global warming, which is already a little late. i wonder if there's a way we can start revealing to church's in the suburbs that though everything may seem neat and pretty, we're in dire circumstances!
how do we bring transformation here? I think we need a multiple route strategy... i've put some thought into converting a house, but again, those darn zoning laws. it's easy to say everyone's got to flee the suburbs and move into a commune, but I wonder if there's a way of leveraging what's there.
suburbia seems to communicate via 'networks' rather than geography... maybe there's some good in this even if people don't fully know the extent of who we are.
that above image is so disturbing to me... there's something we've got to be able to change about the actual aesthetics and physical space of our communities at the same time... I'm at a loss of what's really doable at the moment though...