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15 years ago @ Craig Murray - AV Referendum and Nick... · 0 replies · +1 points

but they have done those terrible things. They banned the construction of minarets, right? Which made liberals the world over howl.

Then they voted to deported convicted foreigners.

I could go on.

But the British public are completely incapable of telling when Clegg or Cameron are lying through their teeth so they'd continually be suckered into imperialistic wars and other things about which they know essentially nothing: Saddams nukes, Qhaddafi killing his one people, etc.. That is where direct democracy of any kind fails. But the Swiss as I've pointed out, having a purely defensive military, do not have to decide such questions.

Liberals certainly don't want any kind of real democracy, or referendums or any other arrangements that would prevent them using political correctness to bludgeon the public into accepting what the public knows perfectly well is contrary to their interest.

15 years ago @ Craig Murray - AV Referendum and Nick... · 0 replies · +1 points

Hey Clark, I was only kidding.

All I know about Chelmsford is that Charles Dickens visited the town in 1835 while covering an election as a news reporter. His verdict was that it was the "dullest and most stupid spot on the face of the earth."

However, judging by the Wikipedia article, it actually seems like a really interesting place. It must have changed since the 1830's, and perhaps Dickens was in a foul mood when he visited.

15 years ago @ Craig Murray - AV Referendum and Nick... · 0 replies · +1 points

Sounds like a good idea. I'd vote to send Tony Blair, David Cameron and Nick Clegg to the Tower as war criminals -- which is why no such scheme in any meaningful form will ever arise.

15 years ago @ Craig Murray - AV Referendum and Nick... · 0 replies · +1 points

If you define a constituency in terms of "a few tens of kilometres" your talking the whole of the UK! So what you really want is to turn the election into a national referendum and then have the parties select their own MPs according to their share of the national vote. Funny thing is, the Scots don't vote the same as the English or the Welsh, and the people in clapped out places like Wigan don't vote the same as the geniuses of finance who commute to the city from Surrey and the home counties. And as I recall, the folks in Devon regard the Cornish a bunch of foreigners. So your idea that there is no merit in local representation seems mistaken.

15 years ago @ Craig Murray - AV Referendum and Nick... · 3 replies · +1 points

If you have a constituency with three of four MPs you finish up by electing jerks like Nick Griffin. LOL.

Anyway, when you talk of constituencies with multiple representatives, you're talking about populations of up to half a million or more, which makes nonsense of the idea of local representation.

You might as well have a national referendum and then allow the parties to pick their own MPs according to their share of the national vote. Which would be a total trashing of the British Parliamentary system of government.

The problem is that no one really trusts a liberal, for obvious reasons -- think Clegg -- so the Liberal candidates come in second or third nearly everywhere.

So why not just accept it: If people wanted a liberal government they'd vote for the bastards.

15 years ago @ Craig Murray - AV Referendum and Nick... · 8 replies · +1 points

Oh, the folks in Chelmsford can be relied on to vote sensibly on whether they agree to the construction of additional minarets, whether women should dress like pillar boxes and stuff like that.

But the thing is, Switzerland is not an empire or the sidekick of any empire, so the Swiss don't have to decide difficult questions such as whether Col. Qhaddafi is killing his own people in defiance of international law, or simply putting down a CIA inspired insurrection as any legitimate government is permitted to do under international law.

15 years ago @ Craig Murray - AV Referendum and Nick... · 0 replies · 0 points

Total rubbish. You get to vote for your own constituency representative, and that's it. That's the constitutional basis on which MP's are picked. Parliament is not designed to serve in place of a plebiscite on specific issues.

15 years ago @ Craig Murray - AV Referendum and Nick... · 18 replies · -1 points

Britain has a representative democracy. That means every constituency elects its own representative to speak for the particular interests and issues of the people of that constituency.

If people wanted a Liberal representative they'd vote for one. PR is a Liberal scam to steal seats from more popular -- which is to say more representative -- candidates.

Referendums would lead to chaos. What do folks in Chelmsford or anywhere else know about human rights in Libya? Essentially, nothing, obviously -- other than the lies told them by Clegg, and Cameron on instructions from Rupert Murdoch and the Conservative/Liberal/BNP/Whatever Friends of Israel.

What's needed is an honest system of government, which means that governments would be compelled to state the real reasons for their actions. How that would be imposed, I am not sure, but lopping a few heads at the Tower would seem like a good start. Tony Blair, one might expect, would have a good one-liner to please the crowd as he mounted the scaffold.

15 years ago @ Craig Murray - AV Referendum and Nick... · 0 replies · 0 points

All that proportional rep gets you is Nick Griffin as a MEP on, what was it, eight percent of the vote.

15 years ago @ Craig Murray - The Turner Contemporary · 0 replies · +1 points

Thanks for the info about Turners at the Tate, which I had thought was devoted solely to the celebration of mass murderers and deviationism of every kind. If I have a hour when next in town, I have to try to take it in.

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