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11 years ago @ HijiNKS ENSUE - A Geek... - Absolution Fabulous · 2 replies · -7 points

I suspect you're the one here with reading issues.

I did not say that homosexuals had not suffered, nor that they do not now suffer.

What I said (and maintain) is that their plight is *trivial* in comparison to being black for most of American history. Supporting documentation is readily available to the interested student.

Who am I to tell people how they should respond? No more or less than you. That is, if you were willing to crack a book or two and see what the consequences of such polarizations tend to be.

11 years ago @ HijiNKS ENSUE - A Geek... - Absolution Fabulous · 1 reply · -5 points

Joel, let me break this to you gently.

Morality is hard. It always has been, and it always will be. It takes deep consideration.

Your slogans are stirring, and I have read them many, many times. They are, however, bumper-sticker propaganda. They simplify to the point of self-contradiction.

You are an interesting cartoonist, and passionate in your views. You're not a moral philosopher. Much of this conversation is clearly out of your intellectual league, and it seems you prefer to keep it that way.

So cheers.

11 years ago @ HijiNKS ENSUE - A Geek... - Absolution Fabulous · 0 replies · -6 points

Really?

Um... citation?

11 years ago @ HijiNKS ENSUE - A Geek... - Absolution Fabulous · 0 replies · -3 points

You know what's a great way to state your moral objection to someone's anti-social behavior?

Theft.

What you should really do is steal a couple of copies from the shelf, sell them on Craigslist and give the proceeds to the charity of your choice.

See? Morality is not so hard after all.

Except that you sold the books, and they might contaminate the minds of some poor folks, and turn them into raging homophobes.

11 years ago @ HijiNKS ENSUE - A Geek... - Absolution Fabulous · 0 replies · -1 points

And Alvin Maker is Joseph Smith. So what? He's Mormon. It screams from every page of all of his series!

As do the deepest assumptions of all authors.

11 years ago @ HijiNKS ENSUE - A Geek... - Absolution Fabulous · 0 replies · -2 points

See, this is what is fascinating about the discussion. You read his works and say, "Wow! Someone who really understands interactions with the Other! Framlings, ramen, varelse! Who knows how to question belief and dogma, and does so deeply! Wait -- how can he possibly believe something so silly/repugnant as _____?"

When you find such a contradiction, check your sources and understanding. You might be caught in a dogma trap. And if it turns out that he's wrong... try dialogue rather than condemnation.

11 years ago @ HijiNKS ENSUE - A Geek... - Absolution Fabulous · 1 reply · -10 points

Four kids, enduring marriage to a great woman. Yeah, definitely closeted.

Isn't this trope all worn out by now?

11 years ago @ HijiNKS ENSUE - A Geek... - Absolution Fabulous · 0 replies · -5 points

:) Howdy, Stranger. She's actually right.

Isn't childish argument fun?

11 years ago @ HijiNKS ENSUE - A Geek... - Absolution Fabulous · 1 reply · -7 points

"But I will defend to the death your right to say it" (Hall)... that's sort of an American sentiment, isn't it?

In the marketplace of ideas, the hardest part is putting up with the ones you think are malignant idiots.

I think you need a textbook from something later than third grade. ;) The one you're reading is simplistic.

11 years ago @ HijiNKS ENSUE - A Geek... - Absolution Fabulous · 0 replies · -3 points

Touché. As long as you aren't undermining the idea that the "moral standard" promulgated in our culture is random to the point of dark comedy, I'll completely concur.

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