I did that on a level 4 Sith Inquisitor too. I didn't try doing it before level 4, so I don't know if it's maybe blocked before then or something, but Sith can do this early as well.

Screw the fancy stuff, we just want to leave comments.

Just found you at the new place, Rhii. Grats on the new blog!

Would a standing ovation be out of order here?

That question has been answered, as yes. RealID friends can see which character you are currently logged in to.

For some reason I never find DK's in my groups until I get to Outlands instances. But if I queue on a DK fresh out of the starting area then I'll end up in groups for Strath/Scholo every time.

The only problem I run into with lowby Warlocks is when they use Life Tap to full in mid combat and then after the fight the healer sits down to drink and replenish mana and then the Lock who did nothing about his health or mana after the fight asks you to heal him back to full. Uh, like you couldn't have sat down to eat/drink at the same time I was? /rage

Rogues aren't so bad for me. The most common thing from them is trying to stealth ahead all the time and pulling while they do it because they somehow don't understand that a mob that's 4 levels higher than them is going to see them standing right in front of them. I have seen a lot of rogues that don't go after the tank's target though and end up drawing threat repeatedly and then blaming the healer for it. Silly rogues.

I think you've both missed my point. I'm not saying not to help the guy and offer advice on how to play your class better. I wouldn't have a blog dedicated to giving people advice if I wasn't in favor of helping people get better at playing their classes. If the guy just doesn't know any better, and he's willing to learn, then that's how you solve the problem.

Encouraging bad behavior would be telling the warrior that that's exactly what he should be doing and that he's doing a good job, or insulting him to the point that he continues just to spite you.

Let's take Anea's floating (noting "simi-similar") example. Is passing that boy an example of encouraging bad behaviour? No, doing so would have been an example of being a bad teacher. An example of encouraging bad behavior would be laughing along with the other boys when one of them splashes water in the kid's face when he's trying to float or when he fails. There's a big difference between doing something wrong and not being able to do something in the first place.

A good example of encouraging bad behavior is doing exactly what Stop did which is letting the warrior continue doing his thing without doing anything about it. "You know you're not the tank, right?" - That's prodding, which may very well have got the kid upset so that he decided to be a punk instead of helping. Or in other words, encouraging him to keep doing stupid stuff just because it's annoying. "Darca, please let me pull." - That's a request, to which his reply was obviously "fine, then pull with only 3 people to help you".

If you want to teach someone a lesson about not behaving badly and they won't just take your advice, then you do so by setting the rules and the consequences. "Darca, if you keep on pulling mobs then we're going to sit here until the timer runs out so that we can kick you, and then we'll go on without you." By doing nothing to stop him, he was encouraged to keep on doing it.

A little kid will do the same thing to you, acting up over and over. If there's never a consequence other than giving him attention, then he never stops and instead only does it more often. If you want to encourage good behavior then, "Darca, taking on five was a bit much for you, man. Can you try bringing it down to just two so that you're getting a decent amount of rage but the healer's still able to keep both of us up?" Now you're encouraging him to tone it down a little and doing so in a constructive manner. "Darca, since we're low on AoE can you help us out by using Rend on each of the mobs around me so your bleeds will help us burn them down faster?" Now you're encouraging him to both fulfill his role as DPS and to better play his class as well.

I used to teach a group of 4 year olds at church and one kid in particular was a huge pain. His parents have no clue how to discipline their kids, he can punch his sister in the face and get "time out" which is sitting him in front of the tv watching his favorite movie, but he can spill a glass of water on the floor and get screamed at and stuck in a corner for an hour and every time he turns his head they yell at him again. When he's not getting into trouble his parents like to have their alone time so they usually tell him to go watch tv or go play with his toys or his sister, or whatever. So in order to get their attention he'll just keep on doing bad things to get them to yell at him and he'll do the same with his teachers. He is encouraged to do bad things because that's how he gets attention.

The only way anybody gets this kid under control is to set rules and set the consequences. If he doesn't follow the rules, then he doesn't get to participate in activities or he gets sent off to be with his parents instead. He'll push those boundaries until they're enforced, and then he'll sit there like the best student you've ever had. If you give positive reinforcement throughout the lesson then there are no problems. The kid's 5 now and he's also a creative genius, but nobody likes spending enough time with him to figure that out because they always see him acting up with his parents. Go figure.

*off soapbox*

I had a big wall o' text reply here, but I'm going to just turn it into a post of my own here in a bit and leave you with something smaller here instead.

There are two classes who are primarily responsible for this type of behavior in low level LFG: Warriors and Hunters.

Hunters do it because their pets give them near immunity and they have some of the highest damage available in the level bracket even wearing nothing but white/grey gear. Their reputation as the "easiest" class to level is well earned because of that, and you'll see them doing their own thing repeatedly because of it.

Warriors do it for a couple of different reasons, based on how they're geared. If you see a BoA weapon then they're doing it because they are used to being able to kill anything near their level range within 1-3 global cooldowns. If you don't see a BoA weapon then they're doing it because of their Rage mechanic. A warrior without rage is like a hunter without a bow; you might as well sit there and do nothing. The easiest way for a Warrior with a poor weapon to get rage is to have mobs punching him in the face, so they're going to steal threat specifically so that they can actually do something.

Basically they have two choices, sit there in complete boredom because they have no rage and can't do anything, or draw agro to get the rage they need to not have the run suck for them.

As for how to handle it, if a Warrior grabs a couple of mobs, leave him alone and let him actually do something instead of auto-attack. If he grabs entire rooms full of mobs and tries to act like a tank, then let the moron die and tell your healer not to res him.

Extra butter on that? /pass

Hopefully it's a win-win situation for you then. Numbnuts gquits or gets gkicked, either way you're good.