philscadden
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12 years ago @ Commentary Magazine - Conservatives and Clim... · 0 replies · +8 points
12 years ago @ Commentary Magazine - Conservatives and Clim... · 2 replies · +9 points
The first is false. Michael Mann never said that (because the earth hasnt cooled), (possibly a confusion with Phil Jones whose comment that warming was not significant (only 93%) was instantly claimed as a "earth is cooling" - showing just the problem discussed here.
The second is misrepresentation - dont get your science from WSJ opinion pieces. CERN CLOUD experiment is indeed interesting - but doesnt show cosmic rays can affect climate. To do this need to (quote)
… that increased nucleation gives rise to increased numbers of (much larger) cloud condensation nuclei (CCN)
… and that even in the presence of other CCN, ionisation changes can make a noticeable difference to total CCN
… and even if there were more CCN, you would need to show that this actually changed cloud properties significantly,
… and that given that change in cloud properties, you would need to show that it had a significant effect on radiative forcing.
CLOUD does none. Furthermore, cosmic rays cannot be causes current warming since there is no trend (eg see here.
Finally, that interpretation of emails relies quote-mining with no respect for context.
In short, this is the problem that Wehner discuss. Conservatives uncritically accept convenient lies from ideological grounds. It surely behoves conservatives to accept reality and then find acceptable solutions. Take the challenge here and make a constructive contribution.
13 years ago @ Hot Topic - People talkin' (open t... · 6 replies · +2 points
To me its slow to load, and infuriating in way the "jump to" often just doesnt work - takes you page but not comment and then have hunt through the threads.
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However, a proper comparison would be the graph at Model data comparisons - you know with error bars and such like. The models do not predict short term trends as has been stated to ad nausuem. And yes, data counts. Lets your "natural cycle" account for upper stratospheric cooling, TOA energy imbalance, observed IR radiation spectrum, contraction of upper atmosphere etc.
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13 years ago @ Hot Topic - All guns blazing · 2 replies · +2 points
13 years ago @ Hot Topic - All guns blazing · 0 replies · +2 points
13 years ago @ Hot Topic - Whose lie is it anyway... · 0 replies · +4 points