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15 years ago @ Mormon Coffee - Mormonism’s Sabbath ... · 4 replies · 0 points

Thanks for you time, I'm done.

15 years ago @ Mormon Coffee - Mormonism’s Sabbath ... · 1 reply · 0 points

The keeping of the Sabbath is not a Presbyterian thing, here are some Reformed Baptist resources.

15 years ago @ Mormon Coffee - Mormonism’s Sabbath ... · 4 replies · 0 points

What is the fourth commandment grounded (i.e., what is it's bases) in?

"Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy...For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day; therefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day and made it holy."

15 years ago @ Mormon Coffee - Mormonism’s Sabbath ... · 0 replies · -1 points

My friend, lean to read words in context, if you can't I will not continue with you. I believe the Sabbath is a creation mandate and is for all manking to keep. Sunday Sabbath is another issue, which I believe to be the case. The article you refered to that said was a refuting of my point, was dealing with Sunday as the Sabbath. Not sure how this was refuting my point when I've been defending the idea of the Sabbath. Dr. Pipa's article is not defending a Sunday Sabbath, but that the Sabbath is a creation ordinance. I then refered you to an audio that defends the changing of the day.

15 years ago @ Mormon Coffee - Mormonism’s Sabbath ... · 3 replies · -1 points

I'm ignoring everything else my friend. I can not answer every single question thrown at me...it would be an improper use of my time to do so. Can you please tell me what Luke means here regarding the Law of Moses. As you may know, "Law" can mean various things (i.e. 10 commandments, first five books, of Moses, etc.). You can not simply assume he is addressing the Sabbath at this point or even the 10 commendments (as if they are done away with). The context is deling with the Jews requiring the Gentles to do something for salvation. I've never said one has to keep the sabbath for salvation.

I'm not sure why you are so bent on knowing if my private part was cut, but since you keep asking, yes it was. Since it was done as a baby, I had no say in it.

15 years ago @ Mormon Coffee - Mormonism’s Sabbath ... · 1 reply · -1 points

The response to this article was "I took a look at that article, most of it were assumptions and his opinions. He failed to make a solid Biblical case for it. He also just defined Sunday as the Sabbath day, just like that - no basis on scripture there either." Defining the Sabbath as Sunday was not the purpose of the article friend, it was to ground the Sabbath in creation (i.e. God's calling one day out of seven holy, and what that means for us). It was certainly not a bunch of "assumptions and his opinions." You may not agree with his theology and exegesis, but they were not simply assumptions and opinions. The question remains, what is God teaching the people of God by setting apart this one day out of seven at the beginning, and are there, if any, implications for man.

15 years ago @ Mormon Coffee - Mormonism’s Sabbath ... · 6 replies · -1 points

Lastly, I pointed to this article as a reference to why the Sabbath is not done away. it is part of the order of creation. Dr. Pipa points out that "God instituted the Sabbath, along with work (Gen. 1:28; 2:15) and marriage (Gen. 2:18-25), to govern the lives of all mankind. Just as the ordinances of work and marriage are permanent, so is the ordinance of the Sabbath." Dr. Pipa proves his point through biblical theology and exegesis and concludes by saying "By blessing and sanctifying the day, God communicated to Adam and Eve, and through Scripture to us, the principle of Sabbath keeping. We are to treat as holy what God declares to be holy. We conclude that the observing of one day out of seven is a perpetually binding moral obligation because of this creation ordinance." Does Dr. Pipa say everything that could be said, obviously not, it is this is a denominational magazine and space is short (see he book),

15 years ago @ Mormon Coffee - Mormonism’s Sabbath ... · 1 reply · -1 points

Rick, in one of your comments above you said, "F_melo, I just love the hypocrisy from people like Jeff. " You say this as if you know how I live. Can you please point out my hypocrisy. If not, please do not make such an accusation of another brother in Christ.

15 years ago @ Mormon Coffee - Mormonism’s Sabbath ... · 1 reply · -1 points

Third, it is quite impressive to quote scripture that seems to support you view, but you have to do more then just quote passages. Arius did this to deny the deity of Christ, but when you take the whole counsel of God, Arius did not have a leg to stand on. So, it is not about playing bible-ping-pong; I've done enough of that with the LDS. Rick quote Jesus as saying that the Sabbath is for man, then assumes that this means man can do whatever he wants on the Sabbath. This is simply reading into the text. Tell me, from exegesis, what this text means. Does it mean the Sabbath is does it mean the Sabbath is no longer binding, if so, how do you get to that point. If it means man can do what he wants on the Sabbath, why did God institute the Sabbath in the first place. Did the Pharisee add to the Sabbath things they shouldn't have...I believe we are all agreed there, but that does not negate what God did require on the Sabbbath (see Is. 58: 13-14).

15 years ago @ Mormon Coffee - Mormonism’s Sabbath ... · 2 replies · -1 points

Second, it is interesting how easy ideas change in a conversation, with what seems to be no thought. I have no be defending a Sunday sabbath, only that a Sabbath remains (we know this not only from the OT, but from the NT, see Hebrews chapter 4. But if you want a defense of why the day change see here.

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