I am sick of it!

We send our kids off to fight crap that has no defined goal, no defined strategy for winning or pulling out. Send Bush and Obama to go fight and see how quickly these wars end.

The hidden statistics are the people that are sick and dying from the DU weapons used over there . What say ye Bunky...you never heard about DU? It is called depleted uranium and you can, if you wish, start your own research about it.

Yeah we all leave our sick spouses in the dust --- sure we do.
There is a mistake in life and there is the inner cruelty that I wonder ever leaves someone like Newt.
You want to move to today's world. When someone calls another person a liar and then remarks, "but I would support you." Such a statement is very, very telling. To win at all costs is not a moral act. Would you be happy if you were doing business with someone who has a boss that thinks, yes that salesperson is a liar but he sure can sell a well....I'll support him.

Get a grip, Newt and Romney are both liars. You keep your money in the Cayman's (a world known tax haven) like Romney don't you?

The Republican big wigs again serve up scoundrels.

There are bogus restrictions that put a lot of people in the field in an intolerable position.

Not sure about this but in the AF to go past O-6 you learn to kiss a lot of fancy a$$ as opposed to when you are kissing as an E-1.

Maybe I wasn't clear. What I meant was that those sand people don't have stealth technology in their military planes.

I separated my TSA idea by paragraph and thought that would be clear that it was a separate thought. Normally that is how paragraphs work.

Incompetent? I think not. A high school science kid could build what I mentioned in the post.

Had to go back and read the post again, searching for Zionist aspirations. You changed the name game.

I replied to you saying that he said dirty jews. So Zionist aspirations means "dirty jews". Ok so you say.

I took Zionist aspirations to mean the fight over land between Israel and Palestine.

You see the problem is that the drum beaters that are ready to jump to war hardly ever read the Constitution. Because if they did, they would have to deny the rule of law of the Constitution.

It is really amazing where my Republican brethren have gone. They call themselves conservative but what kind of conservative doesn't appreciate liberty and the rule of law? I can tell you. It is not a conservative but a Party politic where considering a different path is not considered a good Republican. It is the same path that the "good" democrat takes, the Party is always correct and if you think differently then you are not a good Party member.

They keep on the same policy path that starting in Korea hasn't worked for positive change in 50 years. Vietnam - 57,000 Americans dies / Korea 34,000 died almost 100,000 solders lay cold in the ground and neither police actions were won.

Now that is a policy that we should keep. NOT!!!

All the drum beating war boats on this site seem to forget about the rule of law. That makes them no different from Obama's executive, hard hand, ideas --- a man whom I disagree with.

But the drum beaters will never see or understand the comparisons.

Your post interested me and was something worthwhile searching for information about it.

"The Royal Navy immediately established a presence off Africa in order to enforce the ban, called the West Africa Squadron.

Although the ban technically applied only to British ships, other countries were supportive of the ban and gave the Royal Navy the right to search any of their ships intercepted for slaves. A notable exception was the United States, which refused."

Since the USA was not supportive I guess the US ships were pummeled. Many ships gave the Navy the right to search and I haven't found a lot of pummeling taking place. Since it was to be used to apply the British law to British ships, it wasn't exactly a moral military action against the world slavers.

"The Navy attempted to intercept slave ships from 1808 (or 1809) to 1866. A small number of ships were intercepted; some of those ships were carrying Africans destined to be sold into slavery, while other suspected ships which had none on board were captured and escorted away from the coast of Africa."

No doubt that the big salver gun ships gave a fight, many were not well armed and quickly gave in before being pummeled.

Naval history and ship history in those times is an interesting read.

Sorry but reading your constant drum pumping for war, I can't believe any anecdotal evidence you give. One thing that is factual and that is that Paul is getting a ton of support from the military.

I'm too old to know returning guys but know the guys in charge. Sorry Taxpayer1234 but your mind set is not what a lot of the brass is thinking. The thing is that those in the upper pay grade are the ones that study previous wars, they read things like The Art of War by Sun Tzu, etc.. These are the guys that know the current middle east policy is FUBAR and we will not accomplish any long term goal.

This recent war didn't have great mortality but created a very big morbidity.

At 1/3 the total of people is large. "A poll released in October showed a third of U.S. military veterans who have served in U.S. security forces since 2001 think the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are not worth fighting."

"The war, launched in 2003 to topple Saddam Hussein and eliminate weapons of destruction that proved non-existent, cost almost 4,500 American and tens of thousands of Iraqi lives.

When the last departing troop convoy crossed into Kuwait, it signaled the end of a mission that had taken many soldiers through three or four tours in Iraq, fighting a war that soon became America's least popular since Vietnam."

So all of the above loses and we hear they have a fledgling Democracy. "If we think there is a fast solution to changing the governance of Iraq, then we don’t understand history, the nature of the country, the divisions, or the underneath suppressed passions that could rise up. God help us if we think this transition will occur easily. The attempts I’ve seen to install democracy in short periods of time where there is no history and no roots have failed. ." (Marine General Anthony Zinni (retired) Head of U.S. Central Command"

A difference in policy and belief doesn't make someone a kook.