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12 years ago @ The Wild Hunt - The Pagan Terminology ... · 1 reply · +3 points

Maybe if you and her didn't share thoughts on bootstraps...?

12 years ago @ The Wild Hunt - The Pagan Terminology ... · 3 replies · +2 points

Sorry, I don't speak Randroid.

12 years ago @ The Wild Hunt - The Pagan Terminology ... · 0 replies · +1 points

Oh GODS, I'd almost forgotten about that silly "PaganD" nonsense. :-(

12 years ago @ The Wild Hunt - The Pagan Terminology ... · 0 replies · +3 points

See, there you go again. In effect, you are saying that one should not be offended by someone heaping suspicion of neo-Nazism on others unless one is oneself a neo-Nazi. Do you really not see how this an attempt to use innuendo, in an almost McCarthy-like manner, to silence someone who disagrees with you? It is shameful.

This.

Seriously, I'm one of the last people on Earth who's be a racist, and this insinuation of hidden racism among recons severely annoys me, to put it lightly. Yeah, I know some racist groups will use slick language to paint it as a somehow "kinder, gentler racism", but I distance myself from that. The other recons I'm friendly with (both in and outside Hellenism) distance themselves from that. In fact, I've argued profusely with people about how ancient practise really wasn't so "pure" as some people like to think (especially in Hellas -- but only really cos that's what I know).

ETA: For serious. My father's family is Ultach and my mother's is Cornish & Cockney. I'm a Hellenist, cos those are the gods I feel closest to; I've known non-whites who are Hellenists or Romans -- and most of the Kemetics I've met don't appear Middle Eastern in "genetics". Reconstructed religions can be practised by anybody -- some feel a close bond or calling to worship the gods of their ancestors, others feel that bond to the gods of other tribes.

12 years ago @ The Wild Hunt - The Pagan Terminology ... · 0 replies · +4 points

Add extreme Folkishness to that mentality and - oh, yes, we've seen where that leads, haven't we: "we're purer/our religion is purer/our group is purer than anyone else." Sieg, baby..

umm... excuse me? As some-one whose religious practise is based on reconstructionist methodology, I really resent that straw man. Yeah, OK, Hellenism and Religiio probably have the lowest rate of that I've seen amongst other recon paths (makes sense, I guess -- ancient Hellas defined "Hellenes" as anybody who spoke the local language fluently, and Rome would let any free man, and certain classes of free women, who applied and paid taxes be a Roman), but you're still lumpng all recons together, and yet you seem surprised, shocked, that there are recons who resent Popular/Eclectic Wicca?

I've seen nobody in all this go on about "purity". I know that mentality exists, but nobody in Patheos' link round-up has had that sort of mentality. I've seen nobody simply linked there in the comments with that mentality.

This is the worst kind of ad hominem, and not to mention a bad case of poisoning the well.

Thanks! >:-|

12 years ago @ The Wild Hunt - The Pagan Terminology ... · 0 replies · +3 points

This.

And thanks for putting it better than I was feeling up to.

It's like, I can't deny that the Romans suppressed *some* cults, but bringing up interpretatio romana is a bit nonsense -- it was seldom enforced onto native cults, and it was generally understood that's just what Romans did, that's how they reasoned that all the world could be Roman, if they wanted to: "Ah, we see your Maponos is like your version of our Apollo -- Who's Greek, but we liked Him, so obviously He's a Roman god." Huge difference between that along with the occasional suppression of a cult that threatened Rome's political power and destroying the temples of "idolaters" where "false gods" are worshipped en masse.

Compared to Christianity, polytheistic Rome suppressed almost nothing (almmost).

12 years ago @ The Wild Hunt - The Pagan Terminology ... · 5 replies · +3 points

You assume I have resources. What gives you that impression?

12 years ago @ The Wild Hunt - The Pagan Terminology ... · 0 replies · +5 points

Here, perhaps you should familiarise yourself with how the word "pagan" is actually used.

You act like I am suggesting that you have no choice not to be called a Pagan, please believe me I am not trying to imply that.

Uhh... hon, when you say:
Every one of us here are Pagans like it or not. None of us worship the Judea-Christian God & to be honest it doesn't matter if you like the definition or not.[link]
...you haven't implied that -- you've outright stated it.

12 years ago @ The Wild Hunt - The Pagan Terminology ... · 0 replies · +2 points

I admit, part of what influenced my decision to reject the term "pagan" is plain contrariness. "What's that? You say I 'should' do This? Screw you!! MWAHAHAHAHA!!!"

Ahhh! It feels goooooood!!! ;-)

12 years ago @ The Wild Hunt - The Pagan Terminology ... · 0 replies · +4 points

I worship the Theoi (the gods and goddesses and hemitheoi and earth-bound daimons recognised by ancient Hellas), and I am not a pagan. I reject the term as a Christian slur, and as one that may only be rightfully "reclaimed" by those who feel closest to the Divine in the woodlands or countryside -- not by those, like myself, who are spiritually enriched by large cities.

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