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17 years ago @ Glenn Beck - The 912 P... - The 9/12 · 0 replies · +1 points

Beliefs and ideas and ideology are always supposed to be criticized and questioned. If you don't do that then you wind up in a Sharia type situation.

17 years ago @ Glenn Beck - The 912 P... - The 9/12 · 6 replies · 0 points

I don't know where they come from, but they don't come from an omniscient and omnipotent god, or the rest of the world would have developed them at the same time, or not earlier. If they had come from a creator, don't you think that they would have popped up all over the world by now, and people wouldn't still be lashed in Saudi Arabia, or people in Darfur wouldn't be getting murdered in 5 digits per day.

Now its time for you to answer my question.
Do you put your faith in man or not?

17 years ago @ Glenn Beck - The 912 P... - The 9/12 · 0 replies · +1 points

YOUR god, not mine.

17 years ago @ Glenn Beck - The 912 P... - The 9/12 · 0 replies · -3 points

Collins essential English Dictionary defines irrational as, and I quote: "not based on logical reasoning" Faith is not based on logical reasoning.

Merriam Webster defines it as: Not governed by, or according to reason - Sounds like a religious belief to me

dictionary.com defines it as: not in accordance with reason

Reason, by the way, is universally defined by the word logical.

Arational, on the other hand, is not defined by Merriam-Webster, dictionary.com, or Collins. I'll trust those sources over you.

And yes, you're right, that no religion or belief system can be established as a state religion, and each citizen has the fundamental right to worship what/who s/he pleases. That however does not however mean that our government can be guided by a book that provides two completely different looks at a 3 part deity which is supposed to be 1 god, which on its own makes no sense, let alone what goes on within the book, and why an omniscient and omnipotent god would feel the need to "test" one of his faithful, like, for example, Job.

Edit: By the way, you cannot use the root of the word you're trying to define to define it.

17 years ago @ Glenn Beck - The 912 P... - The 9/12 · 1 reply · 0 points

No, the thinking that is destroying America now is the mindset that we can spend money willy nilly like its paper. Whether or not people believe in god or not has dick to do with that, since Bush, a born again evangelical or w/e he passed himself off as spent like a drunken sailor.

Also, anon is 100% right, that statement in no way, shape, or form implies anything about whether or not god or gods exist, to try and say it does is simply foolhardy and moronic. Also, how exactly should I open my eyes to see god? What exactly should I be looking for?

17 years ago @ Glenn Beck - The 912 P... - The 9/12 · 9 replies · 0 points

The fact that you can only see 2 options is why your question can't be taken seriously. There is always another option. A belief in a creator that relies on faith IN OTHER MEN is therefore just as susceptible to corruption as any other set of rules laid down by man. The entire basis of Religion, and in particular the 3 big monotheistic is based around trusting other men that what they said about their lives and the lives of other men is true. If you don't trust men to make laws, why do you trust men to make religion?

So which is it? Either you trust man to tell the truth, or you don't. In either case your argument falls apart.

17 years ago @ Glenn Beck - The 912 P... - The 9/12 · 2 replies · -4 points

Nope, I understood exactly what you said, and exactly what you meant, and chose my words carefully. That truly was one of the most idiotic comments I've seen on the internet. Not only did it have absolutely nothing at all to do with the topic in this particular thread, it also is completely, and 100% able to be re-directed toward your belief in a god, (or at least I assume you believe in a god, probably the polytheistic version of the monotheistic god) and thereby leaving you completely defenseless against a fairly standard retort, which would be something along the lines of: "Oh the irony of a religious person saying that" Your belief which is founded on trust in other men leaves you in a glass house when talking about other people and what they believe.

Do not throw stones.

17 years ago @ Glenn Beck - The 912 P... - The 9/12 · 0 replies · 0 points

Stop weakening your already weak arguments with ad hoc attacks.

17 years ago @ Glenn Beck - The 912 P... - The 9/12 · 4 replies · -1 points

That's the most idiotic thing I've read on the internet. Not only is it an ad hoc and ad hominem attack, it doesn't even make sense because its so easily reversible.

17 years ago @ Glenn Beck - The 912 P... - The 9/12 · 1 reply · +1 points

Life is depressing when its nothing more than test that a man in a robe tells you about from the time you understand english.

Odd how that argument can get turned around on your head so easily isn't it.

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