i bought a ford focus... on tax day... haha... everyone at the ford dealership was going to the one here in st.louis. i wanted to put my money where my mouth was because i can... but that wouldn't stop me from getting a different car if a good deal came along... just so happens, ford gave me an incredible deal on their nicest model on the lot and actually lowered my payment.

i haven't been able to get on because of shift changes... but i'm still in it. i don't feel like i need to be on here all the time personally because i think if you've found this site then you've at least got a level head on your shoulders.

i can access yahoo answers from work, so that's where i'm putting in my time in the political forums smacking people in the face with all 9 inches of my sweet meat train of common sense. sometimes i just go on and goof if i need a break and have some fun teasing people and being silly... it's more efficient to persuade people to think about what you're saying if you don't take yourself so seriously... people sense that, but it also helps cajole them into accidentally thinking about the information... plant those seeds of common sense.

that's why i haven't been in here.

or the guy from arizona that makes the inmates wear pink boxers.

actually, thanks... you did do well. i'm opposed to socialism, but i do like to see a good trading of ideas in a good discussion. i enjoy solid respectful exchanges like that to any of the crazy progressive attacks i see daily everywhere else.

I've already started with the recent local elections. I did checks on the people running and picked the people best suited... but to expand on the end of your post, I think people who decide to run from this point on can tell us what they stand for by simply wearing a 9/12 button... or posting a reference to 9/12 on their platform web page. if someone ran locally here during the next cycle and had a reference to 9/12, I would understand what that person represented quickly. It wouldn't win my vote, but it would make me pay attention to that person... and if they walk the walk, then they'd get my vote. Remember, it took the progressives 8 years to pull something together... as the majority, we can do it in four, but we need to do it right instead of just pulling a mccain (no offense mccain supporters) and throwing a palin to the slaughter. palin is awesome, but she didn't get any prep time and got eaten up. if we're gonna do this, it has to be from the ground up.

washington wasn't chosen as the leader until after the framework was built.

marry me.

you're right it is extreme. but this is suppose to be a new era of transparency. i thought it was all crap, sore losers trying to find anything to complain about before and i felt bad too, but i wasn't going to just point fingers everywhere... but when lawyers stepped in to deny access, that changed things a bit. the only reason you bring in legal protection is if there is something you need hidden. maybe he is a legal citizen, but there is something else in the records associated with it, who knows. maybe it's nothing like i use to think... but if it's nothing, then he's paying an awful lot of money to protect nothing.

We're founded on christian principles, but I don't consider us a Christian nation. I'll be honest, I've never even considered that because growing up I met so many different people from different cultural and religious backgrounds... melting pot to steal your term... and granted, I'm not Christian so I don't see why something like this even matters... but I guess it's important to some people. But, if it's important to some people to be considered a Christian country, then I'd also guess it's important to other people to not be or to take it on themselves to persecute the Christians for X, Y or Z reason. If that's the case, then people who aren't Christians get lumped and blamed for things they have nothing to do with and no part in.

It seems like a convoluted mess to me... I would just point to the first Amendment if you're questioning motive or consideration and suggest perhaps they chose not to make a direct connection in order to make everyone feel welcome from that point forward, and worded to be inclusive instead of exclusive.

Well, one thing that's never figured into these equations is the doctors willingness to work in a system like that. I have several friends that are doctors and all of them state they will just get a different degree because they refuse to work for a socialized medical system where they have no incentive to be the best they can. So, you can be happy throwing your numbers around, but if theirs no good doctors left, what kind of medical care are you expecting to receive? Just curious. If doctors start leaving the career field in droves, are you going to them require them to be doctors? Take away their choice at a career for the collective?

Also, if you've talked to anyone in Canada or England who are on socialized systems, you'd find a different story. When the government can tell you that you can or can't get treatment for serious diseases... let's say cancer... or a liver transplant... and you go on a waiting list with everyone in the United States instead of just the people in a community, state or particular medical coverage... are you going to toot the same horn with your life in their hands? Or, put it this way, do you want to have the choice of whether you live or die be yours or the governments? It's very easy to say the grass is greener on the other side when you haven't been on the other side.

Politicians are supportive of this policy because; like their taxes, they won't be a part of it. Do you honestly think Hillary Clinton is gonna be standing in line with us? Don't get me wrong, I want to help people too, but there is a right way and a wrong way to do it. Forcing everyone into a choice they don't want is not freedom, it's tyranny.

I feel bad for this naive kid's inbox if he's getting copies of his replies sent... damn.

OH! THAT'S A GREAT IDEA! What a great way to highlight their expected behavior.