Thanks Roger.

How did you know??? Seriously, you're sick. My point was, don't judge unless you know all or at least most of the details. I personally think he wanted her out of the way to rid himself of any guilt or even to upset her parents. That said, it may have been for Terry's benefit. We don't know if she wanted to remain in that state or not. We'll never know. However, if you are a believer, then you know she could not go to Heaven until her body had released her soul and she was set free. Otherwise, she was trapped here, unable to live and unable to give on. That is Hell if I ever was able to define it.

Gay Marriage is not allowed, remember? That said, she didn't starve to death, she perished from dehydration. It only takes a few days. My grandmother starved to death and I ordered it. Why you ask? Because she had end stage Alzheimer's and it was written in her Living Will to not go to extreme measures to keep her alive. They asked to install a feeding tube and I declined. We would offer her food all the time, but she always said she had just eaten and wasn't hungry. She had no idea who she was or who we were. She would forget she could no longer walk and get out of her wheelchair and fall and break her hip and wrists several times. They never healed right because she wouldn't allow a cast, or she'd take it off and complain of pain she didn't know where it came from. This person who taught me so much was now more helpless and stubborn than a small child, but bigger and stronger. It is easy for you to judge when you have never seem someone slowly fade away and all that is left of the person you loved is a wasted husk.

Maybe she was listening and she thanked them. We'll never know.

A Truther is the term for those conspiracy theorists who believe 9/11 was an inside job, explosives, Jews, you name it. I don't have time for it from either side. If somebody asked me to prove that I was born here, I wouldn't show them my birth certificate either. I voted for McCain and he for sure wasn't born in the USA. I don't care if it was legally the USA for a sliver of time, it was Panama City period. Obama needs to be put out of office aqnd this isn't the way to do it is my point. I beleive he was born here, regardless of his not wanting to show it. His policies will sink him. The middle will go right next election cycle, but not if we all turn into slobbering idiot conspiracy theorists.

I personally know quite a few Sikhs and they are the most open, peaceful, gracious people I know. What you describe is how they have had to live, not how they prefer to live. They are peaceful at heart.

Hmmm, the link didn't work. Try this one.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/ken...

This should work now. Snopes is a very realiable source many people, both liberal and conservative trust. Your are correct, the first link I sent you was the Birther movement overall and the second, specific to the Kenyan certificate you mentioned. I hardly call that disjointed, I merely focused in on the specifics of what you mentioned. Disjointed would have meant I sent you a link to health care deabate site or something equally unrelated. Either way, you and I have debated before and you have never conceded your position no matter how much evidence was stacked against you. I can hardly expect you to this time. Good day Roger.

OMG Roger, did you not read what that snopes was about??? It was specific to the one offered by Dr. Taitz in the LA court. It is a forgery. They used an Austrailian one as a template. Stop clinging to this nonsense and let's move forward. Obama is a jerk, an American born jerk. Get over it. You remind me of those crazy nuts that cling to the idea that explosives brought down the Towers. It is pure nonsense and no matter how much science you show them, they deny it. Do you really want to lumped together with those nuts?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/ken...

Roger, don't make a fool of yourself. That "kenyan birth cert" was proven to be a forgery. Here is the snopes on the whole thing. Why don't you silly people stop it with this nonsense??? There are real issues to get into, like his ultra-leftist leanings and how we can make sure he loses the next presidential election. I guarantee you it won't happen if conservatives are all idiots who chase after this nonsense.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertifi...

It doesn't say in this article, but if you go to some other sources, they mention her silver bracelet was missing, the bracelet Sikhs never remove. It fell off or was taken when her hand was removed.