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15 years ago @ And another thing... - And another thing... · 0 replies · +4 points

Never say never...

I hope some other politician takes as open and honest a stand as you and allows (most) comments from the great unwashed and is willing to engage with as little regard for political double speak and more for their beliefs as you have.

Many thanks.

I'm still not voting for you... ;)

And another thing...

"Don't apologize—it's a sign of weakness."

15 years ago @ And another thing... - A miserable little ele... · 0 replies · +1 points

Spend about £2 per person to change the current corrupt system where a party with 37% of the vote can claim an overwhelming mandate to enact the largest removal of citizens' rights since the formation of a monarchy. Or something.

15 years ago @ And another thing... - The Woolas row is abou... · 2 replies · 0 points

But the leadership at the time, in a fit of blind panic over daily revelations in The Telegraph, felt it had to be seen to do something.

Funny how no-one around the Labour party ever spoke out about this at the time...

Still, as far as Woolas goes, surely innocent until proven guilty?

I forgot, New Labour also got rid of that while they were in power...

15 years ago @ And another thing... - In praise of Tim Loughton · 0 replies · 0 points

"supply children to homosexual pairings."

I think that phrasing exposes the unjustified bigotry and scaremongering you can expect from the 'true believer' on issues relating to 'the gays' or 'the theory of evolution'.

It is patently obvious that to keep a child institutionalised in an orphanage or constantly moved between straight foster families is worse for the child than being placed with gay adoptive parents.

And that's without me even mentioning the Catholic Church's attitudes towards maltreatment in orphanages.

15 years ago @ And another thing... - Whatever happened to G... · 0 replies · +2 points

plus the monarch...

15 years ago @ And another thing... - Whatever happened to G... · 0 replies · +4 points

"And surely there’s nothing wrong with celebrating the foiling of a dastardly plot to blow up the King and parliament?"

Or we could look at what Parliament was doing at the time and how disenfranchised the vast majority of the country were and see him as a freedom fighter.

Just sayin' there's two sides to most stories.

15 years ago @ Dizzy Thinks - Blast from the Past: A... · 0 replies · +1 points

So medically remove the baby and use our medical advances to try to allow it to survive.

This is removal, not abortion. It is allowed from conception* up until birth. Everyone's a winner.

No foetuses were harmed in the making of this comment.

* EDIT: Meant to add that this should only apply to things with neural circuits. Anything else is placing religion where we should actually be concerned with suffering and harm.

15 years ago @ And another thing... - No room for fudge in t... · 1 reply · +3 points

So we 'know' that they're a threat to this country but there's not enough info to arrest them? Or there is enough info but it was obtained by torture?

"When it comes to the safety of citizens, to protecting them from the maniacs and psychopaths who reckon they’re guaranteeing a place for themselves in Paradise by murdering as many innocent people as possible, there is no room for compromise or fudges."
A noble premise, somewhat compromised by not banning smoking, alcohol and driving.

I would also like to know which of our civil liberties required restricting in order for the UK government to listen to intelligence provided by Saudi Arabia and search the plane (twice since they missed it first time!)?

And, more to the point, you are talking absolute nonsense. If you were serious about it we'd have checks at the entrance to all Tube and train stations to ensure people don't get on carriages with bombs, but you're not and we don't.

Why? Because we compromise on having a functioning mass transit system and security. End of.

PS. Well said Stewart Cowan (this is becoming a habit.)

15 years ago @ And another thing... - Behold! The perfect ar... · 0 replies · +1 points

The point was Tom was showing us "The perfect argument against votes for prisoners" which was simply a rather nasty man gloating.

The actual argument should also include people in jail for non-violent offences and Tom's attempt to paint all incarcerated people as "murderers, rapists and paedophiles" (by taking John Hirst's words) is what I was ridiculing.

|I'm sorry you weren't able to glean that, and that Tom and his fellow MPs are frothing at the mount over this rather than having a measured, rational discussion.

15 years ago @ And another thing... - Behold! The perfect ar... · 0 replies · +1 points

What about the people given non-custodial sentences, when others committing the exact same crime are, where is the logic in allowing one of these groups the right to vote and not the other? Especially when which group you are in is generally based on the local prison overpopulation and whether the judge is having a bad day.

I will certainly have a go at Tom and his New Labour morality-based law making and their demolition of the fundamental rights people have taken for granted in this country for centuries but for you to suggest that this is somehow OT is crazy, we're talking about prisoners being able to vote and I'm talking about that as well as what we can go to prison for!

New Labour created roughly one new criminal offence for each day it was in power. e.g. You can potentially be jailed for not having a licence for a church concert, smoking in a public place, selling a grey squirrel or shipping unlicensed fish and it is also illegal to swim in the wreck of the Titanic!

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