Yes, serious minds debate and discuss. It's so much easier to knock ideas around with someone else if you want to spot flaws in the logic behind it.

I've learned more from my enemies who gladly point out my weaknesses.

But this story about healthcare, the facts are blaringly obvious. If Blue Cross were to announce they were overbudget and the people on blue cross were going to have to make these kinds of cuts.... can you imagine how the press would react?

But for medicaid they cover and try to water the story down at every turn.

He is pointing to an extreme to point out the lunacy of the stages leading up to it.

I think I know where it gets it's hair cut.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYVrIW-SzMs

Oh, South... she is no lady.

Exactly, and if the republicans are stupid enough to give an inch, a single issuse, a single filllibuster to stop things, they deserve to be fired like the republicans we've fired already.

This primary season is going to be so important. We need republicans that will actually be proud and strong on the principals we hold.

Instead of sending my congressman a tea bag, should I send a wooden stake?

Spending your way out of problems?
Ask California, they can draw you a road map. Make sure if you want to go broke, that you do it right.

And if this is what government controlled health care leads to, why would we want any more of it?

The government doesn't understand business. They kill every industry they get involved with. If they think they can bully companies into losing money all the time, that explains the horrible unemployment rates we're suffering with now.

Why not actually solve the problems that are costing the insurance companies so much, like tort reform? For the private sector, the way to push them into cutting costs is to introduce competition. California can't or won't do that any more than complete effective tort reform.

Sounds like business is going to be driven out of the state like so many other people have.

And this time we can believe the little pot belly pig from north korea why?

Sounds like a serious debate to me. Kind of hard on the trash can, and not very pleasant for the trash already in it. But, we all have our talents.

Of course, you realize I would never endorse violence. And I would try to stop laughing long enough to tip the can over so true could climb back out of the trash can.