gwhiz2k

gwhiz2k

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13 years ago @ TechCrunch - YouTube Mobile Goes HT... · 1 reply · +1 points

Also, I'm well aware of the HTML5 experiment on YouTube, and have had it running on Chrome since it came out.

They (YouTube) have stated recently that they have no plans to dump Flash anytime soon, and have explained many of the inherent problems with their HTML5 experiment. By the way, you're arguing with a Web developer with a good knowledge of all HTML, including HTML5.

I strongly feel the need to comment on, and try to dispel some of the misinformation going on out there about HTML5, and there's a LOT of it.

13 years ago @ TechCrunch - YouTube Mobile Goes HT... · 0 replies · +1 points

Good counter.

1. Firstly, I'm using a Nexus One (with FroYo). The m.youtube.com site IS the new site, and the videos ARE high quality, and streaming. Notice that the video clearly shows a N1 and an iPhone. You may be correct about iPhones not being able to play 3GP, but it is a simple matter to detect and serve up an MP4 file when the iPhone is detected in the user-agent string.

2. HTML5 is NOT a video format. You are saying:

"clearly they are using HTML5 or there wouldn't be any video on iphones, which can't play any other web-based video format"

This implies that HTML5 is a video format. Please remember that HTML5 is NOT a video format, counter to what lots of tech sites seem to be spouting. HTML5 is a markup language, which contains a <video> tag that embeds a video, ANY kind of video, on a Web page.

The video is not embedded on a page, but rather streams directly from YouTube. Therefore, there is no evidence of HTML5. Google/YouTube never mentioned HTML5, and yet news sites report it as HTML5. Again, this was my original point: Don't throw around the "HTML5" thing, when there's no evidence of it.

I stand by my original point, bookmarking an App is not installing, and YouTube doesn't need you to do that in order to detect a user-agent string in the HTTP header.

Again, I don't doubt that the iPhone is recieving MP4 while N1 receives 3GP, but the mechanism would still be the same: Direct stream using rtsp://... Again, NO evidence of HTML5, which you clearly are misinformed about.

13 years ago @ TechCrunch - YouTube Mobile Goes HT... · 4 replies · +2 points

Double posting? How do you get that? I only see my one post.

Install the app? There's no app to install, it's on a Web page. If you notice, YouTube itself made no mentioned of HTML5. It's only the news sites that said it was HTML5.

3GP is not "terrible quality", it's simply a container, which can also contain h.264 FYI. Get your facts straight about it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3GP_and_3G2

And where, on Youtube's own blog (http://youtube-global.blogspot.com/) do you see anything about HTML5?

13 years ago @ TechCrunch - YouTube Mobile Goes HT... · 6 replies · +7 points

Someone please show me where the HTML5 is on that site? For the record, m.youtube.com is XHTML Mobile 1.0, and there is no <video> tag. For the technically inclined, each video link uses the rtsp:// protocol, and links directly to a .3gp version of the actual video file, which opens up in your phone's movie player. Nowhere is HTML5 or a <video> tag used that I can see.

I've already seen 5 news articles today announcing YouTube's "HTML5" mobile site. Gimme a break. One news site starts false information, and the rest all echo the same thing.

Tip: If you want to know if a page is HTML5, view the source code (View > Page Source in Firefox). If you see <!doctype html>, You're looking at HTML5. If you see anything else, you're not. I've never seen so many things called "HTML5" that aren't. Even Scribd announced they "went HTML5" to the world, but the site isn't using it (it uses XHTML 1.0 Strict, FYI). Marketing. All this is only going to hold the real HTML5 back longer.