I'm not sure have not looked into that

Do you have a cross, a picture of a cross, or anything you have around you that reminds you of Jesus?

Better get rid of it, because that cross isn't Jesus and since your worshiping it you are in idolatry.

Do you hear how silly that sounds? Do you worship the cross or Jesus? Do I worship the tress or does it remind me of the conception of Jesus God's son?

I agree you can do either of these examples wrong. I've seen crosses with dead Jesus' hanging on them. I like to say sometimes "hey Jesus isn't hanging on that cross anymore"...

Does it mean a cross with Jesus is wrong? (I'd have to say many who have them think of it wrong) but no it's not wrong if it's something in your house that just reminds you of the work Jesus did for us. (being saved is believing he rose from the dead)

So I hope that sheds some light on how just about anything can become an idol. Does that make it evil and no one should do it? absolutely not.

I believe Jeremiah would celebrate the conception of Jesus our Christ with us.

Why thanks ;)

I'm glad they went to intense debate, i like being able to reply to comments from email that's a slick feature.

I use intense debate on my blog(s) now too... Love it

Muslims is anyone of the Islam religion. I think you are referring to Arabs. However Jesus paid for everyone's sins, so to single out one group of people and not others would be in error.

Well for one you need to look at this verse in context of what Jesus was talking about.
in verse
Joh 8:39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.
Joh 8:40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.
Joh 8:41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.
Joh 8:42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
Joh 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

then go to
Joh 8:47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
and...
Joh 8:49 Jesus answered, I have not a devil; but I honour my Father, and ye do dishonour me.

What Jesus is telling these people is that they are not following God they are following Satan. In this world you either follow Satan as your father or you follow God as your father.

Please read all of John Chapter 8 and you will clearly see the connection Jesus is making here. It's all about who you are allowing to lead your life. Jesus was telling these people they are not allowing God to lead their life but rather Satan to lead their life.

Over and over and over Jesus spoke of this. Either you are made spiritually alive "born again" by accepting Christ's work on the cross or you are spiritually dead. Which means your name is blotted out of the book of life. By being born again you are one of God's own. You are a member of his Royal Family. And as such he will discipline you. This is why 85% (more maybe?) of Christians today live in some stage of discipline because they are not doing what God has called them to do.

First and foremost. Study the bible by that I mean, Study under a good teacher (Pastor) One that teaches the bible correctly not just giving you lip service to make you feel good. (90% of Churches today are this way, nothing but lip service or worse)

But as for your question, taking one verse out of context you could make the bible say anything you want. You have to study verses in context.

On top of that, you should study in a way you can see the org. text and meanings. Like with e-sword and the Hebrew and Greek along with a King James or NIV, NASB translations are good starting points. The reason for having a few english translations is so that you might get a clear picture of a given verse, and it's very easy to do when you have the greek and hebrew.

Here is an example
Exodus 20:13 Thou shalt not kill. (King James version)

In 1611 everyone knew what it was saying. But the correct translation would be Thou shalt not murder. The word "kill" is "râtsach" in hebrew that would be "murder". The NIV and NASB translate it correctly in modern English.

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