If the child is in the womb you can kill it but 1 yr out of the womb you can't slap it's hand to keep it away from a red hot oven.....come on N.Ireland we're smarter than this! "In professing to be wise they became fools"
Dublin, its not better, its just another flavor dont you see?
Mantus it's refreshing to see an unbeliever like yourself acknowledging the historical Jesus of Nazareth, His crucifixion and His empty tomb. I do fail to see the logic in your reasoning for accepting Islamic accounts regarding His death on the cross. As you know Islam & Sufism came into existence roughly 600 yrs after Christ's death burial and resurrection. Can you explain your rational for accepting Islamic accounts of the life, death and resurrection of Christ opposed to contemporary eye witnesses accounts like Matthew or John?
According to Mr Dawkins in his book "the God delusion" these so called intellectual baboons are misleading and deceiving millions of poor deluded children. Surely Mr Dawkins publicly trouncing the creationist and intelligent design "baboons" would help eradicate a delusion "meme" and help free a multitude of innocent little children from being deceived. As for the idea that a debate would lend credibility to the creation I.D. "baboons" or the Harry Potter Boy Wizard argument etc The late Christopher Hitchens, Sam Harris, Daniel Dennet, Anthony Flew etc would disagree.
Is it not strange that Dr Dawkins won't enter into a public debate with any of these alleged intellectual baboons? I'm sure a man of such vast knowledge and superior intellect could easily see off an intellectual baboon in a public debate.
OX my apologies as I misrepresented your position. You have not been advocating the "murder the little innocent babies" you advocate the murder of the little SICK & DISABLED innocent babies". You try to justify this evil idea by using ad hominem attacks, it's not going to work OX your wasting your time and mine.
OX your little ad hominem approach to the question of murdering little babies might sound sophisticated and thoughtful, it might even impress your chums and make you sleep better at night but regardless of your age old sophistry your still saying murder the little babies... lets just murder the little babies...
OX, it might be the case that folks aren't stepping up to help families in need that is a problem but advocating the killing of the unborn child because people won't help makes absolutely NO SENSE whatsoever. It's akin to crushing your car because the tires need changed. Regarding my experience with families with disabilities it's irrelevant to the question to abortion. The who takes care of who and how many divorces happen etc is all irrelevant smoke screen sophistry with the aim to murder little innocent babies. Lastly I was surprised you didn't comment on the post-birth murder of the disabled is that something you also advocate for?
I wouldn't answer your question until I understood your position. Now your position clear. You support the murder of an innocent child by the mother including accessories after the fact. If we applied this logic to your question of who supports the child/ Mother at birth etc We could birth the child. See how the mother/family/support structures holds up. If the mother/social structures can't handle it put the child to death then. That’s consistent with your position. Or we could abandon the idea of murdering little babies altogether. Have the birth, contact "contact a family.org" for support, contact other local/international Christian charities for support, contact churches for support. We could care for the least of these and work through this terrible suffering in the love of Christ together. Now I'm sure you have a boat load of logistical issues and sociological “what if‘s” for why we should just go a head and murder the innocent baby but facts our people have been looking after the disabled for 1000's of yrs and getting it done regardless of your moral hypothetical’s and “mercy killings”.
So your position is as follows "I do not personally support the murder of an innocent unborn child but I support the mother who colludes with others (the accessories) to murder an innocent child". Is that what your saying OX?
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