BTW: mwade002 and jameela are on the same side.
War leads to gruesome results. Ask the women and children of Dresden and Hiroshima. Mladic is a Politically Incorrect War Criminal who was just speaking the language the Muslim Hoards understand.
Maybe West/Petraeus. Or West and anyone else.
" our experience with how to prosecute Zacarias Moussaoui and Khalid Sheik Mohammed suggest that the question of how to try the terror kingpin would have been an even bigger circus." What a weak argument and excuse to have someone whacked. We're not prepared to to bring someone to trial but we're OK with blowing their head off? Most conservatives have lost their barrings on this issue, but Ron Paul stays consistent. Besides, only a fool would not realize that the "kill" order was given purely for Politcal expediency.
Again, I am not questioning the decision making of the SEALS. I am questioning what the executive order was. In any type of fire fight or dangerous situation, I defer to the discretion of the enforcers, whether navy seals or campus security. But if the specific instructions from the Commander in Chief was to "Kill" not capture, that's a differentl matter. Let me ask you this. If OBL happened to be out shopping, (any where in the World) and walked out of a grocery store with his arms full of groceries, minding his own business, would you find it perfectly acceptable for a US soldier to just walk up to him from behind and blow his head off? Would that be Justice served?
It looks like I'm sort of a lone wolf on this "Justice" issue. IMO, if circumstances allow for capture, which I feel they did, then capturing and being put on trial is the right thing to do. Just like they did with Saddam. Also, let's be real. Compared to the Nazi', Al Qaeda are just a bunch of Children. And yet, as I pointed out below, we "captured" the Nazi's and put them on trial. Putting OBL on trial would have allowed the US and world to Judge and Condemn radical Islam. Of course, the current administration would have screwed the trial up so much OBL would have walked and ended up with his own talk show on the O network.
What the hell does OBL's religion have to do with America's form of Justice? Indeed, some of the posts here are completely nonsensical . If America believes that the proper response to OBL’s crime is to hunt him down and kill him, then maybe he won after all. Now again, just so where all on the same page, if the SEALS mission was to capture or kill OBL, and in the heat of the raid, the SEALS in question decided “KILL” was the best option, I have no problem with that. But if the orders from the Commander in Chief were simply to “KILL,” which I think is the case, then this is NOT Justice being served. It is revenge, which means Rowan Williams is right. BTW: On this date, in 1945, Hermann Goring was “CAPTURED,” and would later go to trial at Nuremburg for Crimes against humanity. IE: He was brought to JUSTICE! Come on folks, haven’t you ever seen a John Wayne movie?
Your argument is wrong on each account. Bonnie and Clyde and Dillinger where indeed hunted down and ambushed, and NOT brought to Justice. UBL was worse, but unarmed when executed. He "deserves what he gets" after being brought to Justice. What does "a mortal enemy" mean? Is this some "legal" term used to justify assasination or something you read in a comic book. And you completely missed the point. The left, including Obama and Holder wanted him dead to avoid the embarrasment of having to figure out what to do with him. Imagine how much they would have screwed that up! People, get your heads on striaght! The right thing to do: A. Capture him, like the SEALS could have done. B.Give him a swift and Just Military Tribunal Trial, which they could have done on the damn aircraft carrier. C. Hang him or put him in front of a firing squad. (Then bury him in an undisclosed paupers grave.) This is Justice. Something Obama couldn't give a rats ass about.
IRD is one of my favorite organizations and I support them financially. On this one though, Mark Tooley is wrong and the Liberals are right. I must ask, is hunting down a criminal and shooting him in the head Justice? No! It is revenge and Justice was not served. And should we just shoot people in the head to avoid “Billion Dollar Show Trials?” And what of the hypocrisy of this administration? Attempting to court martial three Navy Seals for giving one terrorist a fat-lip, and then ordering other Navy Seals to go blow another terrorist’ head off. (I hope the Seals made the President and Eric Holder sign a waiver saying they wouldn’t be thrown in prison for following orders.)Or accusing the Bush administration of “War Crimes” for splashing water in the face of one terrorist only to turn around and splash bullets in the face of another. Let’s stop kidding ourselves. Obama is just a hypocritical political whore whose only motivation for getting OBL was a possible bounce in his “numbers,” and who deserves no praise for this “HIT.”
Stupid. Did you even read the article?