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On the German Jihadis
One very remarkable comment by Adem Yilmaz (the one who in the beginning of the trial refused to stand for the judge ("I only stand for Allah"): "I recognized the Qur'an is not only a book of prayer, but also a book of law." („Ich habe erkannt, dass der Koran nicht nur ein Gebetsbuch, sondern auch ein Gesetzbuch ist.“)

Politicians of the West, are you listening?
Why did he confess? Because he wanted to "make life easier for me" (his lawyers told him so).

Whole article in German (with picture of this Slave of Allah)

<a href="http://www.welt.de/politik/sauerlandgruppe/articl..." target="_blank">http://www.welt.de/politik/sauerlandgruppe/articl...

Just found this contact adress on their website:
Global Revolution Church
P.O. Box 533961
Orlando, FL 32853-3961
Phone: + 1 407 802 2354 (haven't checked if it's working)
E-mail: info@grcorlando.org
http://www.globalrevolutionchurch.org/

Comment refers to Muslim girl convert to Christianity

This girl is in mortal danger. Such cases are almost a weekly occurence by now in Germany: Terrified muslim underage girl fears for a plethora of reasons (and rightfully) for her life, runs to the police or hides in a shelter. German judges always order her back to her familiy, because in mainstream judical ruling here, everything is done not "to split families". Once designed for civilised people, it is offically aided murder in case of many Mohammedans.

When once again such a girl is killed here, police and judges shrug and tell you: As long as there is only the fear (and somethimes the threat of) violence and no actual violent act is committed, we can do nothing. Family comes first and we have to trust what Mohammedans say because why should we dicriminate against them what we already do if we doubt their good intentions.
These murders meanwhile are part of weekly German Mohammedan life. No newspaper bothers to tell you anymore. You have to filter it out of the daily police reports of every city. Law enforcement and authoryties are burying the huge problem.
And there is another rub: As bad as the term "honour" killing was, it at least pointed to Islam - for the informed. Mohammedans aided by the left raised a big stink here and demanded the'd be not disriminated against: If a German murders a family-member, it is called a "family tragedy", so they argued. "Only Migrants (eg. Mohammedans) are stigmatized with "honor-killings." Now as good Dhimmis the media report Mohammedan crimes as "family tragedies".

Well: In Islam it is the law to coerce (permit, make it lawful, make it allowed, make it halal) by force and murder, what you can't achieve by rational dispute or simple acceptance. Whatever questions the divine order of Islam, has to be omitted.This creats a life in permenent fear for ones life.
In the West, this primitive, instinctive and hormone-anger driven behaviour ist curbed with a taboo and when it happens, it is illegal. But obviously not anymore, when Mohammedans are involved.
Left/progressive people with rosy glasses towards Islam already and willingly sacrifice humans and permit Islam a free kill in my country. Hide this girl from her family. Don't let this Mohammedan disease spread in the US where it has already started.

BTW: Intense Debate sucks big time.

The link seems to be dead. Here is another one:

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2008/12/israeli-b...

LOL!

Mohammedans are so stooopid. They' ve had this aphrodisiac a long time courtesy to infidel nations. Its called Viagra.
Imagine a Mohammedan starting this rumor (/sarc):
"Infidels have blue pills they sell thruout the world to boost the sex drive in order to corrupt the young," an official said on Tuesday. "We have discovered two types of stimulants that were introduced into the Gaza Strip from Israeli border crossings," Hamas police spokesman Islam Shahwan told AFP.

<a href="http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/gaza-..." target="_blank">http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/gaza-...

Tell you what, Mr Spokesman: Viagra is smuggled through the tunnels en gros, consumed by Mohammedans en masse. You don't need this poor excuse of gum.

Tell you more: Infidels live in a world you Mohammedans know only from your koranic tales of paradise. Desperately you try to sponge off something of this happiness. And whenever you manage too, you are too weak and too cowardly to admit it.

Loosers!

In matters of divorce, the right of ending a marriage lies with the man because 'women have emotions, whereas a man thinks first before he speaks'.

Hahahahah, too funny these Mohammedans. Another case of Islamic Logic.
Whenever they stick a knife in their wife, daughter, girlfriend, ex-girlfriend, rival or just a passing German who happens to look at them in the wrong moment at the wrong time - so basically 24/7 - they howl in court: "But we have honour, we have temperament, it's part of our very emotional culture." And the jugdes go for it. The police go for it. Everybody tiptoes around the male members of the ROP because everybody knows they are unable to control their emotions. On the contrary: It seems the best Mohammedan is the Mohammedan who turns on his emotions the fastest. Be it yelling, weeping, cursing, murdering, raping, looting, rampaging or sulking.

Please discuss Western Law, it's just coming to the East. If you ignore it, it will go underground. By discussing you can take the best of Western Law and incorporate it; you owe it to your future generations.

As mohammedan societies go down the drain, Western Law can stop this downward spiral. Personally I would like to see Mohammedan judges do a feasibility study and pass out Western sentences; see how it empowers them to act and feel like a judge.

Let's work together on this and create a better society; bring back proper meaning to Sundays, Godspeed.
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The West and Islam are not compatible. To whining and "dialoging" Mohammedans:

The West was perfectly fine and could handle its internal problems well by itself, until Mohammedans decieded to leave their miserable, failed islamic countries to settle in West - which is so well of and attractive because it hasn't the slightest thing to do with anything Islam considers "valuable".

Islam? No thanks.

Ok, late to the party.

First: "Well, torture is one thing at which the Germans are certifiably expert."

Thanks. Once Nazi always Nazi. You don't say that, but you imply it. I never thought one of my favorite allies would spit in my face. I don't run around in German forums telling everyone "the US" are certifiably experts in torture. Although I am sure I would all with a sudden have a lot of friends.
If I were mean, I'd say: The US throw their true ally Israel under the bus. Well, The One does it. But I can differentiate between The One and Anti-Jihadis. Now an Anti-Jihadi, always keen to be fair, deals me a blow. That I don`t understand.

Second: The Iranian Police Fair will last from 7/15/09 to 7/18/09. A traditionally left-leaning German TV-format (Monitor) has been checking the Exibitor's list. The electroschockers were on route but detectetd. The report critizises the deals Germany is striking with Iran. A critical report aired publically in force-funded public TV in a still functioning democracy . BTW: The report is freely available from Monitor.

You do not need the detour "courageous Iranian dissident Banafsheh Zand-Bonazzi sends this link from IranPressNews, to the effect that "German TV reports the sale of torture devices to the Mullah regime".

Who else will be attending this fair? Who else is reporting in advance?

Ad: http://www.sourcesecurity.com/events/free-event-l...

Where are the critical reports from other democracies taking the opportunity to sell some stuff?

"The 8th International Police, Safety and Security Equipment Exhibition “IPAS 2009” will be held in the territory of the Tehran Permanent International Fair Ground (hall.38) on JULY 15th 18th, 2009.
It is the only exhibition event in Iran in the field of security that has a special importance as one of the most prominent exhibition in the Middle East.
“IPAS” follows supreme goals and valuable objectives such as:
Updating and promoting quality and quantity of police equipment using new technologies.
Omitting intermediates and providing direct contact between users and suppliers through marketing to reduce finished prices.
Amending and improving process of purchase
Making producers competitive to provide logic connection between different industries.
Introduction to newest international technologies and outcomes in the field of police, safety and security equipment and etc.
“IPAS” every year hosts hundreds of internal and foreign companies and visitors including:
- Executive authorities and their assistants.
-Military and civil power men.
- Cultural, Economic& Politic in powers.
- Security experts of state and non state organizations
- Raise building makers.
- Foreign countries ambassadors and representatives.
- Representatives and experts of state and private banks.
– Security and safety equipment importers, exporters, representative and experts.
-Innovators.
from all over the word introducing their newest technologies in the field of safety and security equipment (Weapon and, uniform and clothes, light and image instruments, traffic equipment, aid and relief equipment, educational and consulting systems and other field such as x-ray equipment, crime discovery and anti-crimes systems, police structures, fingerprinting equipment, bullet-proof glasses, types of locks, oil industry safety equipment, etc.)
“IPAS” was recorded in the list of international exhibitions and introduced in all foreign and domestic famous sites.
“IPAS” respectfully invites all internal and foreign companies to participate in The 8th International Police, Safety and Security Equipment Exhibition “IPAS 2009” in the hope of achieving its brave sights.

Weapons & Ammunitions
Types of cool and warm weapons, types of explosive materials, tear gas, anti-rebellion equipment, bomb & mine deactivation equipment, etc."

The characterization of "the Germans are torture experts" in a forum like this is mean. And wrong. Linking the report and allowing the discussion is right.

You forgot the Jews, Marsians, Lord Vader, Global Warming and the devastating effect of mining spice on Dune.

Always glad to help.

Sorry for OT: Does anyone know Arabic? What does it say on the shirt of this Mohammedan boy?

<a href="http://hamburg.nabu.de/imperia/md/content/hamburg..." target="_blank">http://hamburg.nabu.de/imperia/md/content/hamburg...

Background: The German "Naturschutzbund" (NABU), the oldest established environmental organisation of Germany (founded 1899) wants kids to draw pictures of Kingfishers, an endangered species in Germany. Due to political correctness it includes for the first time a Mohammedan reference. Even if it only means "save birds", I am upset. Mohammedans care shiite for our - and their - environment. We don`t have to "include" them by putting lipstick on porcines.