let us not forget all the bailout that went to foreign banks. I suppose you could consider that an unfortunate sideffect, except timmy has guaranteed unlimited dollar loans to the europen banks quite recenty.

Can you say "glass steagall"? bankrupcy? We need to right now take all these derivatives and simply burn them. World-wide, these is 1.5 quadrillion dollars of crap sucking our lives out. But watch, Obama has a fake version off glass-steagall to sell you.

suspicion of third degree assault?

can you say "fire this cop"

§ 163.165¹
Assault in the third degree

(1) A person commits the crime of assault in the third degree if the person:

(a) Recklessly causes serious physical injury to another by means of a deadly or dangerous weapon;

(b) Recklessly causes serious physical injury to another under circumstances manifesting extreme indifference to the value of human life;

(c) Recklessly causes physical injury to another by means of a deadly or dangerous weapon under circumstances manifesting extreme indifference to the value of human life;

(d) Intentionally, knowingly or recklessly causes, by means other than a motor vehicle, physical injury to the operator of a public transit vehicle while the operator is in control of or operating the vehicle. As used in this paragraph, "public transit vehicle" has the meaning given that term in ORS 166.116 (Interfering with public transportation);

(e) While being aided by another person actually present, intentionally or knowingly causes physical injury to another;

(f) While committed to a youth correction facility, intentionally or knowingly causes physical injury to another knowing the other person is a staff member of a youth correction facility while the other person is acting in the course of official duty;

(g) Intentionally, knowingly or recklessly causes physical injury to an emergency medical technician, as defined in ORS 682.025 (Definitions), or a paramedic while the emergency medical technician or paramedic is performing official duties;

(h) Being at least 18 years of age, intentionally or knowingly causes physical injury to a child 10 years of age or younger; or

(i) Intentionally, knowingly or recklessly causes, by means other than a motor vehicle, physical injury to the operator of a taxi while the operator is in control of the taxi.

(2)(a) Assault in the third degree is a Class C felony.

(b) Notwithstanding paragraph (a) of this subsection, assault in the third degree under subsection (1)(a) or (b) of this section is a Class B felony if:

(A) The assault resulted from the operation of a motor vehicle; and

(B) The defendant was the driver of the motor vehicle and was driving while under the influence of intoxicants.

(3) As used in this section:

(a) "Staff member" means:

(A) A corrections officer as defined in ORS 181.610 (Definitions for ORS 181.610 to 181.712), a youth correction officer, a Department of Corrections or Oregon Youth Authority staff member or a person employed pursuant to a contract with the department or youth authority to work with, or in the vicinity of, inmates or youth offenders; and

(B) A volunteer authorized by the department, youth authority or other entity in charge of a corrections facility to work with, or in the vicinity of, inmates or youth offenders.

(b) "Youth correction facility" has the meaning given that term in ORS 162.135 (Definitions for ORS 162.135 to 162.205). [1971 c.743 §92; 1977 c.297 §3; 1991 c.475 §1; 1991 c.564 §1; 1995 c.738 §1; 1997 c.249 §49; 1999 c.1011 §1; 2001 c.104 §50; 2001 c.830 §1; 2001 c.851 §4; 2009 c.660 §39; 2009 c.783 §3]

kind of an odd statement. Do you claim he was in the US when shot? Do you claim he was ever in the US? And if he was in Mexico, and not a US citizen, do you claim he had some sort of obligation to obey US border agents? How should we characterize your contribution to the discussion?

the growth numbers might be right
http://www.heartland.org/full/27204/Eucalyptus_Tr...

In the USA, since the revolution, there is not criminal libel. I guess 17 states have some sort of criminal defamation law, but it is rarely invoked.

On libel, the principle could sue for actual damages. But parody is a fine and respected defense. The thing about parody is that the more outrageous and unbelievable it is, the more it is easy to protect.

So the deal is about whether the school should be messing with off-campus not school sponsored events. On campus, the school has some responsibility for student behavior. So you might think they have some power there. But I have not seen school types being sued for something a kid does at home. Do they *want* to be liable for what kids do at home?

Perhaps. On the other hand, with so much previously illegal activities becoming legal since say 1987, there is a fair chance the feds actually did a legally correct decision.

so I have been having a lot of pain. Indeed I got an offer of lots of opiates, refillable. So I punted, but I figure I am strung out real soon now anyway. So if maryjane worked, and it got past some considerations, I would go for it.

As to working for me, who knows, and it is expensive to go through the hoops. So I should reasonably turn to the black market for a try. But I figure it is not reasonable to ingest stuff out of the black market or even the little home grown legal suppliers.

It seems a little odd that for me oxycodone is convenient for me to get and nastily physically addictive is dirt cheap but grass that no one claims is physically addictive anymore is a problem for me. There is a fine question as to proper medical use of grass, but how many big double-blind studies have been funded? This would usually be funded by the feds one way or another. It has been a long time. What happened:-)

So maybe my reasoning is not quite right, but something is not working right IMO

I comment on unemployment. In the first nine months of the Obama admin, we lost 3 million jobs. In the first nine months of the FDR admin, we gained 3 million jobs. Since the official unemployment numbers have been fraudulent forever., I think this comparison is well-chosen.

There is that statement that all the residents of the entire apartment building were treated like murder suspects. And that maybe relative outside walking his dog, getting thrown to the ground. I wonder if he had any warning, sort of like a disobey a police command thing, or did the cops simply just attack him?

And there comments about irresponsible parents, apparently for living in the same apartment complex as a relative wanted for a crime.

I find it curious that for some people, cops can do no wrong, and for
other people, cops can not do anything at all right. On the former people, do they really want to make a big defense on Bull Conner? On the latter people, do you really always to take the "victim's" word. All very peculiar.

But here is something that might make both sides feel better, if they are actually interested in something like the actual events in question. There is at least one guy walking around Microsoft who is recording permanently everything about his life, including audio and video. Long term research project. So right at the moment, there are some limitations, but I doubt anything that would keep cops from being continuously recorded. Would it give you warm fuzzies during your next cop interaction?

And pushing it a bit, I have pondered the idea of limiting the civil rights of government employees and elected officials, as for instance cops. Before you go all freaky, consider the UCMJ.

mostly, you do not have a requirement to give a real name. People like to throw around identity theft allegations, but I imagine that when he picked up the ID, there was no crime committed. The identify thief we think of these days is real recent innovasation.. Mostly the violations involving identity are really around fraud and lying to the government. Is it not amusing that it is legal for Obama to lie to me, but not for me to lie to Obama?

Some history. After the civil war, lots of people felt the need to disappear. Pretty much all that required was a horse to go west. Many people think this was a very significant safety valve for the nation.