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23 weeks ago @ News From Antiwar.com - Paul Argues for Peace,... · 0 replies · +1 points
Quoting from the article, as to what Bachmann said last night ->>> (…) Michele Bachmann decided to take another route of fact-less war rhetoric: ”We know without a shadow of a doubt that Iran will take a nuclear weapon, they will use it to wipe our ally, Israel, off the face of the map. And they’ve stated they will use it against the United States of America. We would be fools and naves to ignore their purpose and their plan.” (…)
I know that while obviously the first part of her statement about Iran wanting to “wipe Israel off of the map,” has been thoroughly debunked several dozens of times (if not more) by REAL Middle-East and/or Iran experts and scholars, including ones fluent in Farsi, what about the second one, about Iran stating that they would “use a nuclear weapon against the USA?” I mean, this is at least the second time that Michele Bachmann has mentioned this in the past 3-4 debates (and it’s usually mentioned in the same sentence, right after the same infamous, false canard about Ahmadinejad saying he would “wipe Israel off of the map” first part), so where in the heck did she get this from? Yes, I know that her extremist pro-war, neocon advisers told her to say this, but has this ever been something that the Iranians were ever even “alleged” to have said? Something actually said, but propagandistically and falsely “mistranslated” from Farsi, like the first part of her infamous canard? I mean is there some extremist pro-Ziocon, pro-Hasbara website that one can at least point to and at least say that yes, this is a blatantly false, pro-Ziocon “mistranslation” of what Iranians actually did say, such as MEMRI for instance?
I doubt it, and this is where IMO, Dr. Paul utterly failed to call her out on it (as he also didn’t the first time she made this allegation 3-4 debates ago). He should have said that as far as he knows (and he obviously reads everything, not just neocon pro-war and anti-Obomber “talking points” like the other candidates) the Iranians NEVER said that they would “Nuke America” with a nuclear weapon, and he should have asked her for proof, as this is quite a very bizarre, and serious, and as it seems TOTALLY fabricated LIE that she is continuing to make. But obviously something that not being addressed, will give much, much ammo and propaganda to the other Republican candidates, and just general anti-Freedom, anti-Liberty, anti-Paul extremist Ziocon, war party types (of both parties), as they will say that Ron Paul will be an “appeaser” (Yeah, of course it’s always 1938) and will not even use force, and refuses to even “protect” America, even though the “Iranians said that will use nuclear weapons against America.” I mean at least the first part of this canard, about “wiping Israel off of the map” is an actual mistranslation, yes, a bad, propagandistic, utterly fake and false mistranslation, but nonetheless a mistranslation of something actual said, but the second part is something as far as I know nothing but something Bachmann and/or her Ziocon advisors TOTALLY made up from thin air - a bold faced LIE.
But unfortunately, probably like 95% of Americans, if they have even heard of this allegation made by Bachmann, will not be able to know that this is the case (many, or least close to 50% still believe that Saddam was connected to 9-11 (and with self identified “Republicans” this is higher), many if not most Republicans believe that the warmonger in chief Obomber, is too pro-peace and/or not “aggressive” enough against our alleged “enemies” (!!!), many or most Republicans believe that Obomber is a secret “Mooozlim,” trying to help Muslims restore the Khalifate, many or most Republicans believe that he is actually trying to “destroy” Israel, with many of them also believing that he is a vicious “anti-Semite,” etc., etc., etc., point being is that this group will believe almost anything…)
So IMO, Dr. Paul REALLY needs to address this blatantly false, fake, Hasbara “talking point,” and ASAP! Otherwise it will be too late for him, and for all Americans to ever experience Liberty, Freedom, and Peace…
I know that while obviously the first part of her statement about Iran wanting to “wipe Israel off of the map,” has been thoroughly debunked several dozens of times (if not more) by REAL Middle-East and/or Iran experts and scholars, including ones fluent in Farsi, what about the second one, about Iran stating that they would “use a nuclear weapon against the USA?” I mean, this is at least the second time that Michele Bachmann has mentioned this in the past 3-4 debates (and it’s usually mentioned in the same sentence, right after the same infamous, false canard about Ahmadinejad saying he would “wipe Israel off of the map” first part), so where in the heck did she get this from? Yes, I know that her extremist pro-war, neocon advisers told her to say this, but has this ever been something that the Iranians were ever even “alleged” to have said? Something actually said, but propagandistically and falsely “mistranslated” from Farsi, like the first part of her infamous canard? I mean is there some extremist pro-Ziocon, pro-Hasbara website that one can at least point to and at least say that yes, this is a blatantly false, pro-Ziocon “mistranslation” of what Iranians actually did say, such as MEMRI for instance?
I doubt it, and this is where IMO, Dr. Paul utterly failed to call her out on it (as he also didn’t the first time she made this allegation 3-4 debates ago). He should have said that as far as he knows (and he obviously reads everything, not just neocon pro-war and anti-Obomber “talking points” like the other candidates) the Iranians NEVER said that they would “Nuke America” with a nuclear weapon, and he should have asked her for proof, as this is quite a very bizarre, and serious, and as it seems TOTALLY fabricated LIE that she is continuing to make. But obviously something that not being addressed, will give much, much ammo and propaganda to the other Republican candidates, and just general anti-Freedom, anti-Liberty, anti-Paul extremist Ziocon, war party types (of both parties), as they will say that Ron Paul will be an “appeaser” (Yeah, of course it’s always 1938) and will not even use force, and refuses to even “protect” America, even though the “Iranians said that will use nuclear weapons against America.” I mean at least the first part of this canard, about “wiping Israel off of the map” is an actual mistranslation, yes, a bad, propagandistic, utterly fake and false mistranslation, but nonetheless a mistranslation of something actual said, but the second part is something as far as I know nothing but something Bachmann and/or her Ziocon advisors TOTALLY made up from thin air - a bold faced LIE.
But unfortunately, probably like 95% of Americans, if they have even heard of this allegation made by Bachmann, will not be able to know that this is the case (many, or least close to 50% still believe that Saddam was connected to 9-11 (and with self identified “Republicans” this is higher), many if not most Republicans believe that the warmonger in chief Obomber, is too pro-peace and/or not “aggressive” enough against our alleged “enemies” (!!!), many or most Republicans believe that Obomber is a secret “Mooozlim,” trying to help Muslims restore the Khalifate, many or most Republicans believe that he is actually trying to “destroy” Israel, with many of them also believing that he is a vicious “anti-Semite,” etc., etc., etc., point being is that this group will believe almost anything…)
So IMO, Dr. Paul REALLY needs to address this blatantly false, fake, Hasbara “talking point,” and ASAP! Otherwise it will be too late for him, and for all Americans to ever experience Liberty, Freedom, and Peace…
23 weeks ago @ News From Antiwar.com - Paul Argues for Peace,... · 0 replies · +1 points
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