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15 years ago @ Macleans.ca - I know what you're say... · 0 replies · +2 points

I concur. That line had me chuckling for the better part of five minutes :)

15 years ago @ Macleans.ca - Mulcair · 1 reply · +4 points

You're right, Jack and Rick - poor form on my part. My own argumentative streak is a little wider than I'd like it to be.

15 years ago @ Macleans.ca - Mulcair · 5 replies · +6 points

Indeed, the Federal Government could use whatever name it wanted, but it was accepted practice to use "Dominion of Canada" as an official title for decades, given its historic associations and it connections to monarchism, and the Constitution allows this. That's all I was ever arguing - that Mr Anderson's reference to Canada as a Dominion is correct if he is using the term "dominion" in relation to the country's official title.

And even if Mr Forsey is a dead monarchist, his opinion on Canada's official title is obviously accepted by the editors of the Encyclopaedia, and therefore validates my usage of the Encyclopaedia article as a source.

15 years ago @ Macleans.ca - Mulcair · 7 replies · +7 points

This country can still be called the "Dominion of Canada"- nothing in the Constitution states otherwise, and the Federal Government has used the term in recent years. It's not incorrect to use "Dominion" as part of Canada's official name - that's all I was ever stating.

Oh, and even if the Canadian Encyclopaedia is not sacred, I'm confident the authors and editors of said work are much more intelligent than you, so I'll stick with their interpretation of this country's name and official title.

15 years ago @ Macleans.ca - Mulcair · 9 replies · +6 points

Well, the Federal Government used the name "Dominion of Canada" as recently as 2008, so it's obviously not wrong to use this name. And, the editors of the Canadian Encyclopaedia seem to think that there is something in the multiple documents of the Constitution which keeps "Dominion" as this country's official title. They're the experts, and (like I said) that's good enough for me.

15 years ago @ Macleans.ca - Mulcair · 12 replies · +7 points

Yes, the NAME was already covered, IN MY FIRST POST. You're the one who went on some bizarre escapade involving the political status of this nation. Your close-reading skills are in need of some serious improvement.

The Canadian Encyclopaedia (which I hold in much higher esteem than you - sorry) states that the Constitution Act of 1982 keeps "Dominion" as Canada's official title. That's good enough for me :)

15 years ago @ Macleans.ca - Mulcair · 14 replies · +9 points

Yes I am a monarchist, and I am proud of it. For the last time, I'm not referring to this kingdom's political status. I am referring to its NAME - its official title. The NAME "Dominion of Canada" was used a recently as 2008 by the federal government to register a tartan (the Wikipedia entry I provided above has sources stating as much), and the Canadian Encyclopaedia entry excerpt I posted above states the following:

"...and under the CONSTITUTION ACT, 1982, "Dominion" remains Canada's official title."

So yes, our country can still be called the "Dominion of Canada", even if this name is not as common as it used to be.

15 years ago @ Macleans.ca - Mulcair · 16 replies · +10 points

Ugh, you're a lost cause. I'm referring to the NAME, not the British Empire unit of government. I'm starting to think you're being deliberately obtuse in order to obscure the fact that you lost an argument (guess what - it's not working). Since I'm not sure you'll understand the nuance of that last statement, here is the short version:

I'm right, and you're wrong.

15 years ago @ Macleans.ca - Mulcair · 18 replies · +6 points

I already stated that Canada is no longer a dominion in the self-governing territory of the British Empire sense of the term in my first post. Try reading my posts fully next time - you could save yourself a lot of embarrassment. All I was arguing is that "Dominion" remains an official title of Canada, as the following Canadian Encylcopaedia article entry states (last sentence):

Dominion refers primarily to Dominion of Canada (CONSTITUTION ACT, 1867, preamble and s3). The FATHERS OF CONFEDERATION wanted to call "the new nation" the Kingdom of Canada. The British Government feared this would offend the Americans, whom, after the stresses of the American Civil War, it was most anxious not to antagonize. It insisted on a different title. Sir Leonard TILLEY suggested "dominion": "He shall have dominion also from sea to sea, and from the river unto the ends of the earth" (Psalm 72:8). The Fathers said it was intended to give dignity to the federation, and as a tribute to the monarchical principle. The word came to be applied to the federal government and Parliament, and under the CONSTITUTION ACT, 1982, "Dominion" remains Canada's official title.

Author EUGENE A. FORSEY

Link: http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.com/index.cfm?...

15 years ago @ Macleans.ca - Mulcair · 20 replies · +8 points

See above. Your argument is based on the self-governing dominion idea of the British Empire. I'm referring to the name of Canada, which could just as easily have been styled the "Kingdom of Canada" if certain factors had not intervened. Nothing is preventing the federal government from using this name, and indeed it did in 2008, as I noted above. Dominion can also be used as a synonym for kingdom, as the second definition present in my Oxford dictionary states.

Sorry Emily, but the federal government's recent usage (2008) trumps whatever ill feelings you harbour towards the term.

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