"Once again, Stewart attacks someone more important than himself...."

"Oh, and by the way, I can disprove everything you've said."

-AndrewPrice

Still waiting big guy.

haha, again nothing but ad hominem attacks. you made a claim, 'max' called you on it, and cited facts, then asked you to refute it. you claimed numerous times you could but haven't. you are a phony. plain and simple.

keep saying you are getting under peoples skin, but deep down if i pulled what you have the last 20 posts are so you'd all call me for what i am. the fact that andrew is doing it you all get in line to serve him, when in fact all he is is an intellectually dishonest lier and snake oiler. i don't expect any of you to see any of this because you'd rather bow to people rather then your supposed ideals. you'll say otherwise in posts to follow but you'll continue to let andrew play this deceitful charade.

btw, i'm not 'max', now that that is settled you guys can get back to the circle jerk over the Breitbart photo. ah, poor kids are upset a lefty comedian made fun of their puppet master.

in a democracy like ours every voter (18 and above) is important right? or no?

yeah because the GOP base is so intellectual.

awesome. you refute points, they attack then say, "Oh, and by the way, I can disprove everything you've said. But then, why should I bother? What have you offered to motivate me?"

man, really priceless. yeah andrew, facts 'why bother?' especially if you don't have them.

ok so then Jesus is either a normal man, or he didn't exist if he was god.

again, you can't have it both ways. i can't so neither can you.

just seems that your whole argument isn't provable, and even if it was true, human brains could not comprehend any of it (illiterate tribes 2000 years ago even more so) so why keep making up as we go along? seems VERY worthless, and if there is a god there is a 100% chance he will never be described accurately anyway (making bibles and other sacred texts worthless). it's just being intellectually honest to yourself, and to me right now. rather then saying 'i don't know' (like i do) you say 'he exists outside everything' and this is supposed to mean something to anybody. c'mon, that's phony. and garbage. it means nothing.

i wish your skeptism for atheism, and 'darwinism' could be reserved for: "You are arguing that God must be bound by the rules of this Universe because you and I are bound by the rules of this Universe. I am arguing that since God created this Universe, he preexisted it and exists as a thing apart from it and is therefore not bound by the rules he set down for it. As such he can also break or re-write the rules of this Universe as he sees fit; when he does so, we call those events Miracles."

huh?

so you are arguing that you follow what your religion says, not god? am i misinterpreting? that is a very curious statement.

if you don't follow god, what's the point? at that level you are just in a club being told what to do by guys is silly hats, right? i mean your are choosing what is right and what is wrong, kind of like what we do as atheists.

i'd like you to push/explain this a little further, if i didn't (or did) follow you... i've yet to hear a believer say they are willing to disregard a sacred text in favor of a religion or personal opinion/morals. curious. thanks in advance, take your time if needed.

but generally when some says something exists they can prove it, as it's something that is real. god may be real to you using your extremely loose definition, but then so is santa claus, and my cousins imaginary friend to these people. again, this sort of logical absurdity gets us no where, and probably hurts us as a modern collective global culture. (this is why hitchens say 'religion poisons everything')

but again, as you (or I) are creating this work of fiction or video game WE ARE EXISTING IN THE WORLD WE ARE MAKING IT IN. in fiction, your letters and sentences exist according to the rules of language, grammer. what they are printed on. where the book is sold as finished product. you are also a product of an egg and sperm from your mother and father. you are NEVER OUTSIDE THE UNIVERSE. again, c'mon.

had your argument been that the bible is fiction why then you'd be on to something.

good, sensible post.

i could see where you'd make your other conclusions. though i don't agree with them.

i'd recommend you read this it's (somewhat) short:

http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/sartre/...

i think you, unlike others here, will at least try. this also shows the humanity that can be found in an atheistic worldview.