"Oh good! Nice to see you're finally starting to get away from your Progressive ideas"

Do you have reading comprehension issues? I haven't moved TOWARDS or AWAY "Progressive ideals" since the time I responded to your outrageous falsehoods. I have known what I know and believed what I believed for YEARS before this conversation was but a single line on the comment box on your screen. If you had actually been paying attention, you would know that.

"Pssh! I rest my case"

Oh, so god forbid I do what any HONEST scholar regardless of political bent would do and look at ALL the sources and evaluate them on their merit, Ja?

You are a real idiot.

"As far as I'm concerned, they went for ideas that they know the Progressives would be against. It's been a bunch of excuses"

And... how does that mesh with their attempt to have US fall on the IPCC's sword?

"Has the tactic been successful in keeping sovereignty?"

No. The sovereignty of the people- the sovereignty that REALLY matters and from which the others (particularly national sovereignty) derrive- of China has been usurped, and has been for millenia. Just not by the UN, but by something that is if anything even worse.

"I think anyone who would defend Progressive Sunstein/Hillary/Obama/Gore ideas like you do should be the one to get off conservative sites and go back to Move-On where you belong."

A broken clock is right once a day (or twise, for analog ones), and I defend them when I have no choice but to do so. And when they are RIGHT regarding the perfidy of China, they are RIGHT. I cannot help that fact. Now, do you have any actual POINTS?

"America should not bow to China and I believe China does not want us to bow to them."

Sadly, the CCP does not agree with you.

"We should feel ashamed."

How so? We actually insist that the CCP play FAIR and stop oppressing its people? We get sick of Chinese perfidy on the world stage? Why should we "feel ashamed?"

When you have learned about the forced deportation of ethnic Han Chinese to the fronteir to help "Sinofy" Singkian and Tibet- hell, even the Germans could claim that their "settlers" came willingly looking for oppertunity-, and the rampant poltiical oppression, and the history of agression by the PRC, and the nigh-uncontrollable corruption, and countless other crimes the CCP has committed both against its own people and others, yes, it IS very persuasive.

"When you read your left-wing propaganda, I'd suggest you consider the source. I don't think Hillary and the Progressives are good for us"

Which is why I DON'T merely rely on the Clintonistas or the Left to supply my sources. Indeed, many of my sources come from the oh-so-Conservative CHINESE REGIME ITSELF, and yet more come from other anti-Warming sources, like Climate Audit and Ban the IPCC.

"Soros owns Google. I don't believe we should be using the US govt to protect him either"

I believe the sooner Soros goes to hell, the better the world shall be, but that STILL does not change the fact that illegal cyberattacks are illegal.

"Quite the contrary! It's what they're telling and broadcasting to their own people"

Um, how is that contrary? Half of the empty rhetoric despotisms use is on their own people (case in point: Soviet Russia).

Like I said, Christianity spread IN SPITE of the CCP's actions than because of it, and Chinese "capitalism" is crony capitalism at its very worst, with the Chinese people being denied a fair market value for their labor or the true freedom of oppertunity that exists in a REAL Capitalist nation.

"A useful idiot would only promote the way into global slavery"

And pray what do you think you are doing by excusing the crimes of the Communist regime? Promoting PEACE ON EARTH?