I live in a "pro-gun" community. Our busiest business in town is the gun shop, right on Main street. Last years # of murders: 0, Last ten years # of murders: 0, Rapes last year: 0

Legal ownership and the right to defend yourself and your family = a safe and responsible, courteous community.

It's the people... not the gun. Guns are illegal in Britain... they are extremely rare because they never really existed in their society. But, their crime level is awful. The criminals use knives and bats, which aren't illegal. Guess what... knifing's are extremely common in Britain. Britain's major cities are downright scary places at night.

This has very little to do with guns. This is a domino effect issue.
1. No one can find work, especially in these poor communities.
2. People get arrested for drug offenses or non-violent theft, etc and they get a felony on their record.
3. They spend a while in the prison system that teaches them how to be animals in order to survive.
4. They get released... NO QUALITY EMPLOYER HIRES FELONS
5. They can't find work, they can't support their family, they can't even legally defend their families... they have become sub-human citizens. (ie. Slaves to society)
6. They return to crime, but this time they are "prison hardened"... crimes are more violent and deadly.
7. They get caught again, more serious... victim dies, but it was an "accident"... they get a hard 3-7 years. Victim gets no second chances.
8. They get released, no jobs, return to crime, and so on until they eventually are murdered themselves through gang violence or they are sent away for "life" or the "chair".

Now, lets change the course at #2. They get arrested, charged (drug-related / non-violent) and they go to mandatory drug rehab, mandatory life skills training, mandatory job skills training, mandatory living on a budget. They "do their time, pay their fine" and on release they have a clean slate. Their offense is "erased" and they get a start-over. All citizen rights are restored.

Now they have a chance... but those that choose wrong again... get the book thrown at them, long "hard labor" prison term, huge fine, mandatory skills training, etc.

Third time... useless human being... convicted... get mandatory "hard labor" life or the chair... convicts choice.

Sounds familiar. we are in Mason county, next door to Thurston. We have 30 acres and not to long ago, the back 15 was a great hay field. Then the beavers blocked up a nearby stream and now I have a 15-acre wetland that i can't touch... oh, but i still get to pay taxes on it! When are we going to stop taking this from our government who is supposed to be protecting our livelihood? This state is a wetland... how is that a endangered habitat? It isn't ... it is just a way for government to control its citizens.

...but has it really gone up, when you take into account that the value of the dollar has drop substantially?

It is almost like these goons want to start a civil war. They just keep laying blame on others, hoping that some occupy nut case will throw the first bomb... all so they can "rebuild the USA in their socialist/communist likeness". Disgusting!

LOL! China and Mexico aren't going o destroy us. We are doing a good enough job at destroying ourselves without anyone else's help.

Its not like there are any other options... Newt the libtard, and Santorum the big spender. Who wants that... no other conservatives out there, not a one, just can't think of anyone else running, nope, no one there...

Sorry, I didn't realize as someone who believes in Ron Paul, I am not allowed to believe in other people too. Does this mean I am not allowed to support Rand Paul? I voted for Reagan, somehow I guess that was wrong too? And yea, I like Sarah Palin... She is a good, strong woman and I'd happily have here as one of my elected officials.

The real loons are you folks that think the world is black & white... there are no gray areas. You guys are the ones that are gonna get us a "progressive" "conservative" elected.

Oh, I also liked Herman Cain... I'm so shameful!!!

Actually all that "unfairness" is what brought me to Ron Paul. In 2008, I couldn't bring myself to vote RP, because I was still listening to the media ("He has no chance")... Now it is "He is unelectable", or media forgets to mention the second place winner, but remembers first, third, fourth, and fifth.

All the lies, smears, and name calling is angering people and we as America always side with those being wronged. The closest Romney is going to get to running against Obama, will be as a VP.