Exodus 32:27 And he said unto them, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbor.

I can assure, there is no VALID excuse for this.

all pertinent examples. Thanks Rox

I nearly did during my own de-conversion. It was rather traumatic.

She couldn't be more wrong though.

I don't have a problem with Tom and his ministry preaching about god...I get pissed when I see him deceiving people and I fully believe that he is...I'm not sure that it is intentional but it is most definitely happening. The video was obviously hyped footage of absolutely nothing happening to a person that had no problem in the first place.

There is always a convenient reason for why some miracles happen and others don't when you deal with ministries like this..."not enough faith", or just "not God's will right now" are common practice excuses. I know this because I've been in these situations before at similar ministries.

What you see happening, that seems like miracles, are simply highly ramped up emotional atmospheres being used to manipulate your sensibilities.The same thing happens every time Benny Hinn holds a "Healing Conference", they set the stage up so that the audience expects and relies upon miracles happening and when they don't they simply feel like they did anyway...once the emotions subside the problems come back

What bothers me the most is the picture of the young girl in the wheelchair...she was asked to stand up and required assistance doing so, but her "miracle" wasn't completed that night and Tom had excuses for that too. She was given a partial miracle and lots of false hope and humiliation...I've been in a church that did that to a young wheelchair bound girl one time and I still feel massive amounts of guilt for what they put her through.

Also, Kudos to you for doubting the claims you are seeing. Continue to question everything.

I asked why there were so many short legged people in McRae and pondered whether or not there was something in the water down there.

I also pondered that perhaps all this miracle working was in their heads...and that the video in question smelled of deceit, even if it was self-deceit. I said that I was sorry if his ministry was unwilling to accept criticism or speculation, but that alone makes me wonder about the validity of the claims being made.

LOL@ Islam inspiring terror.

1000$ says that whomever presented this Islam presentation had never read the Qu'ran.

If Biblical creationism is allowed in the classroom then so should the Nordic, Hindu, Native American , etc stories.

As badly as I want to leave there is something about this place that I love on top of ALL the things I hate. I want to find some way to change this community or at least leave it changed...I think that might be my final goal in life --- to help remove prejudice, ignorance, and stupidity from my little neck of the woods.

I'll probably need to live to be 200 to ever realize that dream.

yes, and people will devour every word that this man says...nothing scares me more than that.

I used to listen to Skillet all the time

Where do you find this crazy shit? I mean, what are they even saying?