RalphShnelvar

RalphShnelvar

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30 weeks ago @ Daily Camera.com: - Lawsuit demands that w... · 1 reply · +1 points

As noted elsewhere, the Clerk has people assigned to watch the watchers in order to make sure the watchers don't touch anything.

On a more mundane note, the literal translation of Juvenal's question is, "Who guards the guards?"

There is a distinction. watchers do not guard anything (with, perhaps, the integrity of the election. All the watcher can do is raise a fuss if she finds something amiss.

Those who watch the watchers (the clerk's people) can eject the watcher if the watcher misbehaves.

There are other checks an balances in the system. When the system is allowed to work, it works pretty well.

30 weeks ago @ Daily Camera.com: - Lawsuit demands that w... · 0 replies · 0 points

You must enjoy a 3-week-long strip tease.

30 weeks ago @ Daily Camera.com: - Lawsuit demands that w... · 0 replies · +1 points

A watcher and the watchers duties are defined in Colorado statute.

30 weeks ago @ Daily Camera.com: - Lawsuit demands that w... · 0 replies · +1 points

This is for all the watchers for all the political parties. With luck, this will be for all duly appointed watchers for the entire state.

30 weeks ago @ Daily Camera.com: - Lawsuit demands that w... · 0 replies · +1 points

A watcher and the watchers duties are defined in Colorado statute.

To be a watcher you have to be appointed by the county chairs, the political party, candidates, or issue committees. According to statute the Clerk MUST allow those duly appointed people to verify (gotta be close enough to see clearly in order to verify) what the election process is doing.

Sadly, Ms. Hall has been completely intransigent about letting the duly appointed watchers watch.

During the primaries I asked Ms. Hall, "Is there any part of this election process in this facility where watchers are anything other than window dressing?"

Or as another duly appointed watcher said to Ms. Hall during the primaries, "This is a farce."

30 weeks ago @ Daily Camera.com: - Lawsuit demands that w... · 3 replies · +1 points

If a judge agrees, her job is to let watchers watch. It's in statute and in the Secretary of State's rules.

Do you really want elected officials determine how people voted without oversight?

30 weeks ago @ Daily Camera.com: - Lawsuit demands that w... · 0 replies · +1 points

The Clerk has the watchers watched by her staff.

30 weeks ago @ Daily Camera.com: - Lawsuit demands that w... · 0 replies · +1 points

Or just send the printing to a private firm in Aurora where we can't see who gets mailed what.

Watchers (Mary Eberle and myself) were denied access to the printing company even though the printing company said "We have no problem with you being there." They changed their mind when the Clerk's office pressured them.

30 weeks ago @ Daily Camera.com: - Lawsuit demands that w... · 0 replies · +1 points

Thank you Evan.

Even though we are often on opposite sides of political issues, this is an issue we totally agree on.

Indeed, folks, I credit Evan for initially getting me involved i election transparency issues.

God, Evan, you really screwed up my life. (May the gods bless you, Evan, on this issue.)

30 weeks ago @ Daily Camera.com: - Lawsuit demands that w... · 2 replies · +1 points

If I understand the procedure at the Clerk's office, there is no counting going on at this time. Counting happens on Election day.

Watchers should have the same ability to see documents as any election worker, don't you think?