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14 years ago @ West Ham Till I Die - In Conversation With D... · 1 reply · +1 points

Couldn't agree more about G&S Tom. Although I don't like Allardyce either, but we desperately needed some discipline and I think he's brought that (and probably kept DS quiet).

Yeah moving on is always more healthy than dragging up the past, but when G&S took over they were talking about suing the lawyers for bad advice to try and reclaim some Tevez money. So to invite the man who was pretty much responsible in the first place into bed with them for a relatively small sum tastes strange to me.

The problem is this has never really been a site for healthy cynicism. You are either for or against and one of the reasons I stopped posting was I wasn't in the mood for constantly swimming against the tide. A couple of years ago you might remember an interview ID did with Duxberry. The reaction from most commenters was similar. Wow he is being open with us what a great guy. I was cynical that day and most thought I was whingeing but I'm still far from convinced that DS is baring his soul to us.

14 years ago @ West Ham Till I Die - In Conversation With D... · 6 replies · +1 points

Yeah or West Ham United (2012). Got a certain ring to it. Lol.
Nearly did that myself recently. I don't know how that works with football clubs Tom, but the way Pompey are going I think we might find out.

The point I was making mate was about Brown. I really don't get it.

14 years ago @ West Ham Till I Die - In Conversation With D... · 8 replies · +1 points

Hello academyhammer. The Sheff U debts didn't prevent us from going into admin. They just meant that, if we had, we wouldn't have been able to cut a deal with Sheff U to accept a portion of the debt and write the rest off. Apparently.

14 years ago @ West Ham Till I Die - In Conversation With D... · 10 replies · +1 points

Yeah I've just seen your post Graham. From what DS said it's because of the debt to Sheff U mainly that we couldn't have been saved by admin in the same way as Rangers or Pompey. I've never heard that before. No idea if it's true but I guess it must be or someone in the media will pick it up.
Under the circumstances is £500k worth his involvement?

14 years ago @ West Ham Till I Die - In Conversation With D... · 12 replies · +1 points

"...Terry Brown owns a tiny little bit. He put half a million pounds in. I know the fans hate Terry, but you couldn’t have a guy that loves the club more than Terry. He may have run the club like an accountant, but he goes to every home and away game and he loves the club. When we asked for half a million quid he put it in. You could say well it’s nothing, but it isn’t nothing, it’s a substantial sum of money."

"We have to pay down Sheffield United. The whole Tevez deal cost the club over £30 million"

And who was responsible for that deal?
And how much did he sell the club for? £80-£85m. He must have cleared a nice little sum personally from that.

I would argue he should be answering some serious questions about that deal and answering them to club lawyers with a view to holding him responsible for that debt. Why is that not the case?
That's the kind of question I would like DS to answer in this new culture of openness and honesty.

NB. Iain could you tell me why my comments are being deleted? I might have a different view, and often use humour and sarcasm to make that point, but I haven't broken any rules or been disrespectful to anyone (except maybe G&S and KB, and never in an offensive manner).

14 years ago @ West Ham Till I Die - In Conversation With D... · 0 replies · +1 points

“If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses.”
― Henry Ford

14 years ago @ West Ham Till I Die - A Reason To Rethink Th... · 1 reply · +1 points

Ok I see what you mean. I can't see arranging to meet in Starbucks for a latte before the match either!

Not been to stratford for years. Are the old pubs still there or have they made way (I remember the swan? in the broadway, the wetherspoons one (Golden Hind?) round by that pointy glass building (ok not exactly traditional!). I'm sure the Golden Egg cafe is long gone...lol.
I think I'm gonna go back for a reccy just in case the move does happen.

14 years ago @ West Ham Till I Die - As I Wasn't Saying Yes... · 0 replies · +1 points

Thanks for your reply insidewhammer, I think you're about spot on with those figures.

The point I was making was that construction costs for the taxpayer would apparently be around £100m. If this could be financed over 25 years or so at £5m a year (incl interest) it could be offset by sponsorship monies, so the media stories about extra cost to the taxpayer don't really stack up.

14 years ago @ West Ham Till I Die - A Reason To Rethink Th... · 3 replies · +1 points

Good points Gav, although I don't get the last one. surely the local facilities for fans would be better, including food and drink. Or am I missing the point?

Another point would be the increase in fair weather/casual/less committed support.

Another thing that crossed my mind, assuming we are in the Prem, is when we play teams with bigger support than us, is there a danger of a Wigan situation where the home support would be matched or outnumbered by the away?

I still think if we want to progress as a club we need the financial benefits of the move. Hopefully we will find a way around the problem of atmosphere/view etc. I'm convinced there will be some kind temporary seating solution found.

14 years ago @ West Ham Till I Die - A Reason To Rethink Th... · 2 replies · +1 points

Iain, as you well know, anything printed in the Daily Mail should be taken with a pinch of salt big enough to grit the M11 from now until February.

However, as far as us taking over the tenancy of the OS is concerned, I think the game has changed recently. With Spurs now stating publicly that they have absolutely no interest in the stadium, the choice is either us, Orient or a hugely expensive white elephant.
I don't think Orient would either want or be capable of taking over the tenancy. I really can't see how that could happen. Hearn is just holding out for a nice cash bonus.

In which case we are surely now in a position to take the stadium on our terms or walk away. Which is giving the OPLC little choice but to accept. OK asking for the track to be removed would open up a can of worms that would delay any decision for years. But I'm sure we could work with the OPLC to ensure there are seats over the track during the season and all athletics events take place in the summer (bar something like the World Athletics Championships as a one-off).
Really, what would they do with the stadium if we pulled out?

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