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13 hours ago @ The Antichristian Phen... - Humanist hypocrisy · 1 reply · +1 points
I know what you mean with comparing organizations and religions; the point is that Buddhism is a religion, but it does not focus much on the metaphysical and there is no existence of god, and it supports the idea of environmentalism, you being a part of a greater whole. This is why the idea that religion alone is a religion because of a god-concept is flawed to me, because a lot of religions don't believe in god at all, they are in fact, quite a few once you start counting them and compare them to other religions, worldviews or cosmologies.
Is humanism a worldview? I suppose it is for some, and in that warrant it is SIMILAR to, but not equal to religion. I don't think I ever openly said it is religion, but it is becoming a lot like a FUNDAMNETAL religious group. And this is what I disagree with.
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So, I will not attack all of your arguments, but I will bring up some critique to some of your ideas to not necessarily prove you wrong, but because I think you need to reevaluate whether you truly are a Christian:
"but Jesus' goal was for people to grow in Spirit, so I wouldn't be surprised if he himself is disgusted at how religion has evolved since it so often turns people away from him."
I find it funny that you mention this, because everyone has different opinions, and that's one of my issues. While I agree that if Jesus would live today, he would probably be shocked how some people have twisted his values; but then Jesus would also consider that this might be inherent in our human nature. Humans are by default curious, we like to understand the world around us. Additionally, considering that the Bible as a scripture is never clearcut when it comes to its varying messages, obviously different people would interpret said verses differently. This is also a major problem. Every Christian claims they know what Jesus thinks or what he should do. It's fallacious, because it's clear you don't. Being a Christian or a believer does not equal to you always know what god or Jesus think.
"I accept that God knows the environment and circumstances in which we live. He doesn't expect us to be perfect, so I don't"
Here I disagree again. Why? Because if humans would admit they are imperfect, then what reason is there to repent for your sins? Repenting is a major feature in all Christian religions, and is ultimately one of the major driving forces into allowing people into heaven.
"One of the best things Chrisianity did for me was remove my self-centeredness"
Could you possibly imagine that it was not the religion itself who did this, but you? Can you imagine yourself doing this without any religion?
"When it comes to free will, it makes perfect sense to me. God created heavenly beings who were perfect and sinless, until the cherub Lucifer became so filled with pride and conceit that he exulted himself above God. Lucifer recruited angels to form a rebellion against God and there was a great battle in which God and his angels conquered Lucifer. They were cast out of heaven and sent to earth. The bible says Satan is the ruler of this world. At the point that God's creation no longer CHOSE to have fellowship with him, God had to allow the opportunity for choice. Humans too have that choice, because if we were forced into fellowship with God, we too might reject him."
But you see, once you start to logically evaluate this, it doesn't make sense. Why? Free will for example allows us to reject god even after having "invited god into our hearts". If god was so keen about keeping us humans into believing, then god would not give us free will. God is a jealous god, many times has it been stated in the Bible that god does not accept people who are not believers and that those will be punished appropriately. Free will also causes a paradox with god being omniscience and omnipotence. I will not go into that now though.
Also, your final sentences makes no sense. Because without free will, if we were coerced into believing in god, we have no choice but to believe anyway. It is the choice, the freedom, the free will, that allows us to reject god is we would so wish.
"If a group of terrorists moved into your country and began a rebellion, would you allow them to dominate and bring suffering to all of those people who were happy living in that country, or would you try to remove them and let them go live somewhere else with their own like-minded people?"
This is a logical fallacy called false dichtomy. You set up two polarized examples of how you can solve the situation when there are many other choices you can take. Also, you don't quite answer your own question, you just goes into saying that god loves everyone.
What would I do? I would try to look into the reasons what would motivate such a terrorist group. More often than not, you see that these people have nothing to live for, what they do they do because it's the last stand for them to take to survive. If nothing changes or if they die it doesn't matter to them, and once you know the cause of the problem you can start working into how to make it better. Once you know how to make it better, you can start to negotiate. That's what I'll do. Not pray for god to bring sanity to their minds, not turn the other cheek, not sign on a paper to destroy the utterly.
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