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13 years ago @ Race Relations Project - Week 8 - Lesson 14: Af... · 0 replies · +1 points
13 years ago @ Race Relations Project - Week 8 - Lesson 14: Af... · 0 replies · +1 points
13 years ago @ Race Relations Project - Week 7 - Lesson 13: Im... · 0 replies · +1 points
13 years ago @ Race Relations Project - Week 7 - Lesson 13: Im... · 0 replies · +1 points
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door.” Yea right, that doesn’t apply so much anymore, now does it. America the land of Hypocorisms.
13 years ago @ Race Relations Project - Week 6 - Lesson 10: St... · 0 replies · +1 points
13 years ago @ Race Relations Project - Week 6 - Lesson 10: St... · 1 reply · +1 points
I completely agree with Sam’s statements about the pre-awakening stages. As a white male, I to remember the days when I began to realize that I am white. I do have a race group. I am white. Then I look at someone who is of color and think about when they noticed their race. Since the time they were young they were forced to notice it. I feel that it would cause certain issues for anyone who was somewhat different. Being forced to notice that you are different and need to find your “subgroup.” Being a white male I never was forced to do this. I fit the norm and had no problems. I remember the first time I was faced with being the different one. I was literally the only white person in a room, and was getting awkward stairs like I didn’t belong there. Now attempting to live in a situation that’s always that way would be horrible. To already be forced into the awakening stage at a young age had to be a pretty tough experience. To me people of the LGBT community seem to have the roughest time with this. Even though it may not happen at the same young age as it does for people of color, but it seems to be a much more emotional experience. They have no one who they can talk to. It is something that they can attempt to conceal. Hiding skin color is not manageable are all, but hiding sexual orientation, is plausible. One of my closest friends forced himself to not be true to himself or other for 6 years before coming out to us. Being forced into an awakening stage, and then not being able to tell anyone, or embrace your culture would be almost torturous. They are stuck in the middle, they know but are afraid to tell anyone. Eventually most come to terms with it eventually, but until they do I have seen the struggles people face. I thought certain parts of my growing up were extremely difficult and unfair, but upon looking into the differences that people of different races and groups go through, mine don’t seem to bad. This lecture made me really look into things of this matter. I noticed that people who go through this stage, seemed to take one of two routes. They accepted it and let it drive them, or they became angry and hateful. The race themes that are pounded into our heads when we are young were touched on, and that was something I never had took notice to. It made us think that white was right and better. The white supremacy ideas are inadvertently taught to us. That is something that I didn’t notice ever and it is kind of scary when you think about it
13 years ago @ Race Relations Project - Week 5 - Lesson 9: Sta... · 0 replies · +1 points
Agreed. It was Amazing that children could be saying these things. There are some crazy people in the world. I don’t think that these children honestly feel this way. I feel that the ideas were pounded in there head every since they were very, very young. When this is all you know, and you are taught these things when given very biased one sided facts, its understandable for them to say these things. Children are very easily influenced, so when their parents tell them this is what is right, often they will believe them. Only in the future when they are given the true facts about events such as the holocaust or the gay community, will they be able to make a true decision on how they feel. Once they realize that their parents have been lying to them and conditioning them to appreciate hate, they are going to resent their parents for a long time.
13 years ago @ Race Relations Project - Week 5 - Lesson 9: Sta... · 0 replies · +1 points
Holy hell…The holocaust was an exaggeration? Are you kidding me? Okay I understand the fact that some people take the realization of their whiteness as a reason to possibly feel superior, but rationalizing the holocaust?!! That was something that I would have expected to hear from an older, nasty man. When I heard two young girls speaking like that, I was dumbfounded? It seems to me that white people have issues meeting in the middle. They either take one extreme or another. White people seem to either become so racist and give themselves a false sense of superiority, or they are petrified, and almost refuse to talk about any racial issues because they don’t want to cause a disturbance. It confuses me to attempt to understand these possible ways of thinking. Sam said it best, “if you hit someone in the street, does it matter what color they are?” Of course it doesn’t matter. People are people. You will get in the same amount of trouble for killing a black person as a white person, right? Everyone has a thought process, and if they know you aren’t trying to offend them, often you aren’t going to lash out at you in a rage. Put yourself in their place. If someone were to ask me “hey are you stupid because you are kind of polish?” I am not going to explode on them. I am going to explain sadly no I am not. If I were I would have so much fun poking fun at myself! I don’t think that a simple question automatically means someone is racist or being intentionally hurtful. Most people need to realize that. The red house video did explain it very well. Everyone shops for furniture right? People are people race doesn’t change the fact that people are willing to talk to one another with out arguing about race. I feel that a lot of people who think they are in stage 3 actually are not. I know white people who will say they understand inequalities and white privledges, but truly they do not. They make excuses for discrimination, and say that most of it is just in peoples heads. I notice this in my home town. When I talk about things such as this class to people here, they say things like “oh, I get it, I know how those things are, but most of it is nonsense.” That’s not understanding, that’s lying to everyone, including yourself. Until you realize that these things are real, and that they do have impacts, you aren’t truly in stage 3. It is ignorance that blinds us. Even though there are laws and regulations now, there are always loop holes. I can tell that I am possibly in stage three. I become angered at people and find myself arguing with them when they speak stupidly. This class seems to work well as ammo when engaging in these arguments. It is amazing how many people I never realized really are ignorant. I do feel that I will not feel guilt for being white. It was how I was born and I could never control it. What our ancestors have done to one another is in no way how I feel things should be. The only way to move forward is discuss these things with one another and let one another know that these feelings are not more. People are people, and thats how the world needs to see things.
13 years ago @ Race Relations Project - Week 5 - Lesson 9: Sta... · 0 replies · +1 points
I never really took notice to the fact that white people never talk about being white. I am white. So, why didn’t I take notice to that? I notice that people of color often talk about their skin or other factors concerning their race, but didn’t ever think about my skin color just because I am white. It amazed me that simply in the opening line of a lecture I could make an epiphany like that. The idea of sense of self and shaping it didn’t seem like It was something that would be possible to make a complex subject. I always thought of it as something that was simple. Someone asked who you were and you told them the things about yourself that made you, you. What I didn’t realize were the things that I left out that other people may have considered an issue. The idea of height, bring straight, or being right handed don’t often come to mind as something that would shape me, but what about other people? The way Sam said “It’s just the way it is, it’s an Is-ness thing,” sort of made all of that click. It seemed to me that the things that people considered shaped them were all things that were different from what the social norms are. People who are extremely tall or short consider it a major aspect of their life. People who are gay clearly consider it important. Things that violated the idea of normality were the focus areas for people. At first when Sam said about white people being stuck in just stage two I did not exactly believe him. I thought there is no way that most white people only make it that far into the stages. After listening to the lecture and gaining a better understanding of it, he is definitely right. Most of the white people I know do avoid all racial issues. They would rather avoid all of the political issues that would pertain to race. Rather than attempting to learn, or just bring issues to light that they aren’t certain about, they will completely avoid them to avoid being uncomfortable. I think it is because they are afraid of offending a person who is different. The idea of just not understanding how people are plays into things a lot. When he brought up the idea of being handicapped I did think about it. I don’t know what it is like to be handicapped nor do I understand what it is like to deal with people who are. I do lack experience with things like that. If people had experience around people who are different than them, they begin to understand why people are the way they are. It comes back to being rounded. If you spend your life around people who are all like you, I can understand how someone could get stuck in the first two stages.
13 years ago @ Race Relations Project - Week 4 - Lesson 6: Rac... · 0 replies · +1 points