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13 years ago @ elephant journal: Yoga... - Judith Hanson Lasater ... · 0 replies · 0 points

This is so interesting: "She is completely NAKED , not in a loin cloth or leo or little shorts and a sports bar , just NAKED ! For no other reason..."

Once upon a time, we wore clothes for a reason. Now we need a reason to take them off.

13 years ago @ elephant journal: Yoga... - Gita Talk #15: Nearing... · 2 replies · +1 points

Lovely.

13 years ago @ elephant journal: Yoga... - Gita Talk #15: Nearing... · 2 replies · +1 points

How shall we come to some consensual agreement? By evaluating evidence?

13 years ago @ elephant journal: Yoga... - Gita Talk #15: Nearing... · 2 replies · +1 points

Exclusionary doesn't mean questioning and rejecting. Something that has been questioned and rejected has not been excluded. And exploratory doesn't mean accepting.

Can you think of any ways of approaching a text that are acceptable to you other than questioning and rejecting aspects of it?

13 years ago @ elephant journal: Yoga... - Gita Talk #15: Nearing... · 2 replies · +1 points

At no point have I ever suggested accepting claims without question. By using the open/ fill metaphor, I'm talking about fostering an exploratory rather than exclusionary approach to the text. And the text is not made up exclusively of claims.

On what basis do you say that I accept the text without question? What's your credible basis for that claim?

13 years ago @ elephant journal: Yoga... - Gita Talk #15: Nearing... · 2 replies · +1 points

I understand better now. I grew up knowing of the Bhagavad Gita and the Upanishads, but I didn't discover the Yoga Sutra until I was deeply involved in a yoga practice, so in my experience it seems much more obscure. But I see now that you mean within the yoga community. And yes, the concision would make for a different kind of discussion.

13 years ago @ elephant journal: Yoga... - Gita Talk #15: Nearing... · 0 replies · +1 points

Yes, I have no quibble whatsoever with disagreement. What I mean by polemics is that the Gita merely serves as a stage for an argument about other topics, in which people hold fast to one pole or another of a polarizing view. People arrive with a view, argue about it, and then depart with the same view.

In such a discussion, the Gita may have inspired the argument, but that's not the same as letting the Gita teach us. What interests me is listening to what this ancient text has to say, not so much listening to other 21st Century Americans lecture on or debate 21st Century ideas of science or religion. Those debates may be interesting in their own way, but they're also available everywhere.

13 years ago @ elephant journal: Yoga... - Gita Talk #15: Nearing... · 2 replies · +1 points

YogiOne, if I may ask, what did you learn in those polemical debates that caused you to revise your thinking?

13 years ago @ elephant journal: Yoga... - Gita Talk #15: Nearing... · 2 replies · +1 points

Bob, what do you mean when you sayt that the Yoga Sutras are overexposed relative to the other two texts?

13 years ago @ elephant journal: Yoga... - Gita Talk #15: Nearing... · 0 replies · +1 points

Well done! Satchidananda or Ravi Ravindra (which I just discovered and have been very pleased with). I would love to read your treatise, though...

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