Goodness! poorkitty indeed! Such hiss and vinegar!
Marijuana DOES meet the schedule 1 criteria despite it not being a narcotic. "Schedule I, n a category of drugs not considered legitimate for medical use. Included are heroin, lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD), and marijuana.". http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/S...
Increased potency?
Even these guys will tell you it exists, and they did the work with researchers, growers, and medical cannabis buyers' clubs, with support from California NORML: http://www.maps.org/news-letters/v09n3/09320gie.h...
If you want first hand user testimony, just ask an old hippie who owns a head shop or hydroponics store.
Potency factors are the variety of pot, how it's grown, and when it's harvested. The Mexican variety is typically stronger.
Finally, in following your logic regarding legalization to remove the criminal element, should we then legalize ID theft to remove THAT criminal element.
Poorkitty, indeed.

That would be the Obama administration and culture of corruption.
NO ONE before him has done more to undermine and negate the rule of law in just 3 short years.
If you voted for Obama to prove you're not a "racist", PLEASE vote for someone else to prove you're not an IDIOT.

The cartels will NOT go out of business.
They may even muscle in to control the "business". After all, THEY illegally have guns to protect their interests and you don't...right? No? That firearm IS cleared and you DO have the proper permit(s)?
An unsecured border will not keep any of them out of our forests (much less legalization of pot OR illegals) and neither will Americans who WILL NOT do the appointed job upholding the rule of existing federal law.

If I'm right on many points...which critical ones was I wrong on?
Thank you for at least trying to consider my comment
My point is there is an alternative with the benefits of THC without the collateral damage of corruption, deceit, home invasions, and greater carcinogenic risk that has been medical marijuana. Those social ills and aren't driven by the fact it's a Schedule I controlled substance. Corruption, deceit , and home invasion robberies are about criminal intent.
The social fallout of legalization would certainly not be worth it.

Totally false?
You mean the AMA and the others are part of a "right wing conspiracy"?
I'm glad your Doctor is ecstatic. Does he practice at the local dispensary?
Step away from the bong and let your head clear long enough to comprehend.
The use of Marinol doesn't require the use of a justly classified Schedule I controlled substance.
There is an alternative without the collateral damage of corruption, deceit, home invasions, and greater carcinogenic risk that is the medical marijuana culture.
And you may want to see this regarding addiction but then in light of your "enlightened open-mindedness", you probably DON'T.
:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_dependence

The 60's are over. The research has been done and a better alternative is available.
Now you just look stoned.

Marijuana is Not An Accepted Remedy, and There Are Substitutes
4/26/08|Duluth News Tribune| by James C. Backstrom - Duluth News Tribune
"While Minnesota’s law enforcement leaders have compassion and sympathy for persons suffering from serious diseases and afflictions, we strongly oppose the adoption of a law legalizing marijuana for medical purposes for many reasons.
First, marijuana is not an accepted medicine. Marijuana remains classified as a Schedule I controlled substance, which is illegal to possess or sell under federal and state law. Schedule I includes substances that have a high potential for abuse and the lack of any accepted medical use.
Additionally, the use of smoked marijuana has been rejected by the American Medical Association and, perhaps even more importantly, by the major medical organizations representing the groups of patients proponents say need it the most, such as the National Multiple Sclerosis Society, the American Academy of Ophthalmology and the American Cancer Society.
What the proponents of this ill-advised proposal don’t want the public to know is that there are many medical substitutes that have gone through the necessary and rigorous testing procedures of the Food and Drug Administration to ensure safety for patients suffering from cancer and other serious debilitating diseases. In fact, there already exists a legalized form of “medical marijuana” in America. It’s called Marinol, and it can deliver accurate and safe dosages of THC (the most active ingredient of marijuana) to patients in the form of a pill. (It also is currently being studied for suitability by other delivery methods, such as an inhaler or patch, for those too nauseous from illness to take pills.)
More than 20 other FDA-approved medications exist for persons suffering from cancer (including the side effects of chemotherapy), glaucoma, multiple sclerosis and other serious ailments. Unlike other FDA-approved drugs, the potency or THC strength of marijuana (which has increased significantly in recent decades) cannot be regulated or monitored. No drug in America, by the way, is approved for delivery to a person through smoking, for obvious health-related reasons.
Because marijuana will remain illegal to possess under federal law, legalizing it for medical purposes will place Minnesota law enforcement officers in an untenable position when attempting to enforce the criminal law.
Testimony last year by the bill’s authors and supporters referred to it as a 'tightly crafted' proposal that would impact only 150-200 sick and dying persons in Minnesota.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

This proposal would allow 'registered organizations' to grow 12 marijuana plants for an unlimited number of 'patients.' Each plant can produce 1-2 pounds of marijuana, and many plants can produce four yields a year. One ounce of marijuana can produce up to 23 joints; one pound could produce 448 joints; and 8 pounds could produce 3,600 joints. If this proposal becomes law, these 'registered organizations' will be producing large quantities of 'medical' marijuana which will make them easy and likely targets for theft.
As to the number of patients likely to use marijuana under this proposal, one need only check the statistics of the state of Oregon, which enacted a virtually identical law to that proposed in Minnesota. As of April 1, (2008) 16,635 persons have been issued medical marijuana cards in Oregon, 14,599 of whom were authorized to use it for 'severe pain.' This is hardly a small number of seriously ill and dying persons.
For all these reasons, Minnesota’s law enforcement leaders strongly oppose the adoption of a law legalizing marijuana for medical purposes."
In light of these facts, the whole medical pot agenda is rife with deceit and corruption.
I wouldn't count on ANY of these guys to honestly report production and pay taxes after legalization than I would the Mexican cartels who have grows on remote public and private land NOW.
Nor would I trust any politician who won't enforce the rule of law.

Marijuana is Not An Accepted Remedy, and There Are Substitutes
4/26/08|Duluth News Tribune| by James C. Backstrom - Duluth News Tribune

"While Minnesota’s law enforcement leaders have compassion and sympathy for persons suffering from serious diseases and afflictions, we strongly oppose the adoption of a law legalizing marijuana for medical purposes for many reasons.
First, marijuana is not an accepted medicine. Marijuana remains classified as a Schedule I controlled substance, which is illegal to possess or sell under federal and state law. Schedule I includes substances that have a high potential for abuse and the lack of any accepted medical use.

Additionally, the use of smoked marijuana has been rejected by the American Medical Association and, perhaps even more importantly, by the major medical organizations representing the groups of patients proponents say need it the most, such as the National Multiple Sclerosis Society, the American Academy of Ophthalmology and the American Cancer Society.

What the proponents of this ill-advised proposal don’t want the public to know is that there are many medical substitutes that have gone through the necessary and rigorous testing procedures of the Food and Drug Administration to ensure safety for patients suffering from cancer and other serious debilitating diseases. In fact, there already exists a legalized form of “medical marijuana” in America. It’s called Marinol, and it can deliver accurate and safe dosages of THC (the most active ingredient of marijuana) to patients in the form of a pill. (It also is currently being studied for suitability by other delivery methods, such as an inhaler or patch, for those too nauseous from illness to take pills.)

More than 20 other FDA-approved medications exist for persons suffering from cancer (including the side effects of chemotherapy), glaucoma, multiple sclerosis and other serious ailments. Unlike other FDA-approved drugs, the potency or THC strength of marijuana (which has increased significantly in recent decades) cannot be regulated or monitored. No drug in America, by the way, is approved for delivery to a person through smoking, for obvious health-related reasons.

Because marijuana will remain illegal to possess under federal law, legalizing it for medical purposes will place Minnesota law enforcement officers in an untenable position when attempting to enforce the criminal law.

Testimony last year by the bill’s authors and supporters referred to it as a 'tightly crafted' proposal that would impact only 150-200 sick and dying persons in Minnesota.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

This proposal would allow 'registered organizations' to grow 12 marijuana plants for an unlimited number of 'patients.' Each plant can produce 1-2 pounds of marijuana, and many plants can produce four yields a year. One ounce of marijuana can produce up to 23 joints; one pound could produce 448 joints; and 8 pounds could produce 3,600 joints. If this proposal becomes law, these 'registered organizations' will be producing large quantities of 'medical' marijuana which will make them easy and likely targets for theft.

As to the number of patients likely to use marijuana under this proposal, one need only check the statistics of the state of Oregon, which enacted a virtually identical law to that proposed in Minnesota. As of April 1, (2008) 16,635 persons have been issued medical marijuana cards in Oregon, 14,599 of whom were authorized to use it for 'severe pain.' This is hardly a small number of seriously ill and dying persons.

For all these reasons, Minnesota’s law enforcement leaders strongly oppose the adoption of a law legalizing marijuana for medical purposes."

In light of these facts, the whole medical pot agenda is rife with deceit and corruption.
I wouldn't count on these guys to honestly report production and pay taxes after legalization than I would the Mexican cartels who have grows on remote public and private land NOW.

Nor would I trust any politician who won't enforce the rule of law.

Apparently the pastor and church board has not only forgotten that shepherds are not supposed to beat the sheep, but 1 Corinthians 6:1-8 as well.

6 "When one of you has a grievance against another, does he dare go to law before the unrighteous instead of the saints? 2 Or do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world is to be judged by you, are you incompetent to try trivial cases? 3 Do you not know that we are to judge angels? How much more, then, matters pertaining to this life! 4 So if you have such cases, why do you lay them before those who have no standing in the church? 5 I say this to your shame. Can it be that there is no one among you wise enough to settle a dispute between the brothers, 6 but brother goes to law against brother, and that before unbelievers? 7 To have lawsuits at all with one another is already a defeat for you. Why not rather suffer wrong? Why not rather be defrauded? 8 But you yourselves wrong and defraud—even your own brothers![a]"

Sorry for your hurt in this scenario Julie Anne.
I went through something similar years ago. I was part of a para-church ministry that had a hierarchy and authoritarian shepherding focus that proclaimed some to be "apostles", "prophets" and the rest of what they called the "5 fold ministries or offices". If you see something like this, then run fast enough to create a sonic boom.
Also avoid the ones who are more about propagating and preserving a denominational culture ("old fashioned revival/camp meetings", anyone?) instead of truly knowing God's Word, loving Jesus, and the world around them. "Signs and wonders" for their own sake, manifestations, and charis-mania circuses are just that...a side show circus with nothing genuine or lasting. Too often they take instead of give. Replaying their "glorious" history is NOT looking or moving forward. Reminds me of Luke 9:62 "Jesus replied, 'No one who puts his hand to the plow and looks back is fit for service in the kingdom of God.'" Looking back while plowing produced some crooked rows in the field but "looking back" in this context was considering a return to the old life of sin.
Also, DON'T rely on ANYTHING on TBN for spiritual nourishment or wisdom. There's a lot of "wolves" in sheep's clothing on there, i.e., Benny Hinn and others.
It's all a part the last days prophecies of false teachers.
I've always heard good things about Calvary Chapels that teach the Bible in a thorough expository manner as opposed to topical fluff with proof texts.
I hope you can get plugged in somewhere good, get spiritually fed and healed, and continue to produce good things from it.

In Marion County, as in many others, there are mutual aid agreements between the fire services and pre-fire plans that are put into motion for scenarios like this one. Years ago, all the fire agencies in that county except 3 operated on a single mutual aid radio frequency. Thing are MUCH busier today and most everyone has mult-channel capability.
There is typically a designated county fire chief who becomes involved at about the four alarm or greater stage (depending on the size of the dept. who has the fire) who can bring in additional resources as needed and direct the suppression effort.
Fox12 said that 16 different agencies responded to this.
Not all would be at the fire scene but some would do move ups to responding stations who are now empty and provide coverage.
As for my previous comment, Woodburn Fire District protects the city and the outlying areas. Last I knew, their Gervais station was not being operated for lack of volunteers but I hope that has changed.
From your description, it sounds like equipment came in from Wash. and Clackamas Counties.
Good call. Later we'll probably know if Polk and Yamhill Counties were responding as well.
I'm very glad no one was injured.

From the video, it appears the sprinkler system did its job and limited the fire spread.

This is not being handled by Woodburn Fire Dept. In 1984, an election was held and voters chose to annex the city fire department into the rural fire protection district.
In 1987, the city of Gervais was added to the district, rounding out its current service area. http://woodburnfire.com/

This fire is indeed a loss for WHS.
It's hard enough to fund education let alone rebuild even with insurance money.