Medicad and Medicare are unfunded, and need to be. Medicaid provides payment for health care for the disabled (acute and chronic) and the poor, while Medicare covers the elderly. Do you think these programs should not exist? As to the cost of the wars, is that total or annualized? Is your figure for Medicare/Medicaid underfunding on an annualized basis or is that totalized?

I am not going to "sit down and shut up" about the issues that concern me or my country. Why would you even say that?

I don't think health care is an entitlement. I think we are morally obligated to care for the sick. If you are denied access to health care, because you are too ill or too poor to afford the treatment you need, then I think you are being denied a basic right. It's a sin that people are one accident or bad illness away from bankruptcy, and I am thrilled that the health care bill makes it illegal for your insurance company to drop you if you develop a pre-exisitng condition, such as cancer. It's incredible that cancer has been called a pre-exisitng condition but there you go.

This is a known fact? Sorry, that's not known to me.

Let me ask you, seriously, where am I doing this (blaming others for my "condition") frequently? You do not know a thing about my condition, or my personal situation. Nor is that even relevant here.

This is a long post, but I will try to reply. First, an amplification of my comments on Rove, Atwater and push polling along racially divisive lines: Willie Horton is an example of where it's been done before. It does not surprise me to hear that it's been done again. Rove and his former boss helped to create that issue. When Atwater was dying of cancer, he expressed deep regret for the Willie Horton incident. The real issue with Willie Horton was playing the race card, not a concern about criminal law and penal system policy. That was never the point.

We probably do disagree about why the Sherrod incident was so depressing. Breitbart was very successful in steering the conversation toward race and creating a lot of controversy. Again, we are divided instead of working together.

These comment boards vary. Again, I don't accept that the charges of racist elements in the tea party are false and unfounded. The level of hysteria in reaction is just further confirmation. I have appreciated the recent actions of the tea party to address the racist elements among them, and i have maintained that the Breitbart debacle has done nothing but diminish those efforts. There are some on this site who insist that the recent efforts to distance the tea party from racism are in fact something else, since according to them there are no racist elements in the tea party to contend with. I am not sure what to make of allegations that the tea party is being infiltrated. All you have to do, though, is remember Segretti and MacGruder and G. Gordon Liddy to know that people are capable of pretty much anything in politics.

I think these comment boards are more about opinions than sharing facts. You can do your own works on the facts, and I can do mine. I am more curious about people's opinions and why they feel the way they do.

With respect to your last comment, either you take my comments at face value, or you don't. I am not here to infiltrate the Breitbart comment boards, I am free to join and express my views, which are different in some respects to many of the views I see here. After the whole Sherrod thing, it doesn't really help me to learn to go boards where everyone is like-minded to me, so you seek out differing opinion to learn, hopefully, something new. There is tendency here to call people retarded, idiots, blackie or "lightenin" --not sure what that means, but that's part of an anonyomous commenting culture, where people excuse themselves from their manners because they are not face to face.

Hopefully this will clear up some things for you. This is all offered in a respectful manner, recognizing that you and I do not appear to agree, though we do appear to have some political views in common based on your posts.

I am not trying to condescend to you in any way, but it may be that I am making some assumptions about that I shouldn't be making. I would never direct to you to a place to go get the facts, because I assume that you are perfectly capable of doing that on your own, and judging what you find you find credible and what you don't. I would never point anyone to littlegreenfootballs and say here are the facts. I could say--here's charles view on that, and what's he's looking at to form that view. That's about it. I explained where I got the story on Rove/McCain from--McCain. If you don't believe it, then you don't.

I do think Rove is a bigot, among other things. He's been involved in some disgusting things over the years. That's my opinion and I have my reasons for it. It's not a false rumor. I note that he works for Republicans, but I don't think his nastiness means that all Republicans are nasty too. I have said elsewhere that the racist elements in tea party are a concern to me, which is why I am posting here. The reaction to my posts has been varied. I never called you racist, or assumed that you were. You're just wrong about that.

Don't have much of a reaction to CBS. Don't watch TV news that much. Never said I did. Wouldn't recommend FOX, MSNBC, CBS, CNN to anyone.

If you dig back in history to the last century, in addition to the previous one, the democratic party also helped to dismantle Jim Crow, sponsoring the Civil Rights Acts and other critical legislation in the 1960s. As a result, they "lost" the South, as Pres. Johnson famously observed. Is it wrong to associate the democratic party with that as well?

"dimwit" and "retarded" are really not necessary. When you address me, please do so in a respectful manner, as if we were face to face, and I will do the same.

Please watch the video again. There is no applause until the end, there is no cheering on of prejudice against the Spooners.

But he isn't a Muslim, and he was born here. Why can you not accept that?

The last time religion was this big of an issue, it was for Kennedy as the first Catholic president. He had to assure people that he would not take orders from the Vatican. Here, the President is not even a Muslim, and yet there are people who are insisting that he must be, that he's lying about it, and that it's some kind of plot. Why is that?

As for his birth place, he was born in HI, and yet there are people who refuse to believe it, want to personally handle an original birth certificate, and think this is some kind of plot. Why is that?

Again, we will have to agree to disagree.