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13 years ago @ Loganswarning - Islam 101: The Religio... · 0 replies · +1 points

It is unbelievable what is going on. When I try to expose it, I get into some pretty bad arguments with some folks immediately branding me a racist and being like totally nasty. It blows my mind how they refuse to look at what Islam is.

13 years ago @ Loganswarning - Another day, Another I... · 0 replies · +3 points

anniehamilton if you use real name they will KILL you. They believe in KILLING anybody who criticizes Islam.

13 years ago @ Loganswarning - Update: Mass. Governor... · 0 replies · +4 points

Mohammad killed anybody who criticized him and his followers are still issuing death threats to anyone who disagrees with them!

13 years ago @ Loganswarning - Update: Mass. Governor... · 1 reply · +6 points

There is too much misinformation on Islam. Go read the quran and hadiths they will shock you. Read the history of Mohammad...the real history not the lies. Look at countries like Iran, Saudi Arabia, etc that are under Sharia. Know that Islam is a political system and they will always seek to get control and have Sharia. This is their belief as Muslims. There is NO free speech or freedom of thought or freedom of religion in Islam. You are not allowed to criticize Islam. Islam is not compatible with western society.

13 years ago @ Loganswarning - US Maj. Gen. Jeffery H... · 1 reply · +1 points

This was track 15 and is from Al Bukhari

On the Authority of the son of Umar ...The messenger of Allah may peace be upon him said I have been ordered to fight against people until they testify that there is no God but Allah and that Mohammad is the messenger of Allah and until they perform the prayers and pay the zacat and if they do so they will have gained protection from me for their lives and their property and unless they do acts that are punishable in accordance with Islam and their reckoning will be with Allah it was related by Al Bhukari a Muslim.

We learn from this hadith that:

1. Non Muslims are given 3 options. First to embrace Islam willingly, 2nd, to pay the jizha tribute (tax), 3rd option is to be fought. So, waging war in Islam is the last option when dealing with the disbelievers.

2. One who totally rejects and denounces prayer is given a chance to repent. Afterwards and in case he insists he is sentenced to death.

3. Permissibility of fighting those who refrain from pain, zuca, the poor

4.Muslims blood and wealth are well protected in Islam

5.As human beings we judge with outward appearances Allah judges according to the inward

13 years ago @ Loganswarning - US Maj. Gen. Jeffery H... · 0 replies · +1 points

the Quran. EVERYONE should read it. T
When confronted with is, the usual response is :
1. What you have said is not the real Koran.
2. You are misinterpreting the Koran.
3. You need to read the whole chapter.
4. You are taking it out of context. (A hot favorite!)
5. Get your facts straight.
6. Don't insult our religion.
7. Fuck you, I will kill you!

A religion of peace. Indeed!

13 years ago @ Loganswarning - US Maj. Gen. Jeffery H... · 0 replies · +1 points

" [33] The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: EXECUTION, OR CRUCIFIXION, OR THE CUTTING OFF of hands and feet from opposite sides, ... "
Quran 5 Al-Maidah Verse 33

Apostacy
the texts are clear: From hadith Bukhari 9, 84, 57:
'Some Zanadiqa (atheists) were brought to 'Ali and he burnt them...Ibn 'Abbas said "...I would have killed them according to the statement of Allah's Apostle, "WHOEVER CHANGED HIS ISLAMIC RELIGION, THEN KILL HIM."

13 years ago @ Loganswarning - US Maj. Gen. Jeffery H... · 0 replies · +1 points

"And fight them on until there is no more tumult and oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah" (2:193)
"The vilest of animals in Allâh's sight are those who disbelieve." (8:55)
"I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks (beheading) and smite all their fingertips off them." (8:12)
”This because they contended against Allah and His Messenger; if any contend against Allah and His Messenger, Allah is strict in punishment.” 8:13
“It is not you who slew them; it was Allah: when you threw (a handful of dust), it was not your act, but Allah’s in order that He might confer on the Believers a gracious benefit from Himself; for Allah is He Who hears and knows (all things.”Q 8:17
"…Truly the pagans are unclean; so let them not…approach the Sacred Mosque." (9:28)

13 years ago @ Loganswarning - US Maj. Gen. Jeffery H... · 0 replies · +1 points

Sura 9:5 "fight & slay the Pagans wherever you find them, & seize them, beleaguer them, & lie in wait for them in every strategem of war. But if they repent, & establish regular prayers & pay Zakat, then open the way for them."
Sura 9:29:“Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, even if they are of the People of the Book, until they pay the jizyah with willing submission, & feel themselves subdued.”

13 years ago @ Loganswarning - Islam 101 · 0 replies · 0 points

This was track 15 and is from Al Bukhari (hadith)
On the Authority of the son of Umar...The messenger of Allah ...said I have been ordered to fight against people until they testify that there is no God but Allah and that Mohammad is the messenger of Allah and until they perform the prayers and pay the zacat and if they do so they will have gained protection from me for their lives and their property...by Al Bhukari a Muslim.

We learn from this hadith that:

1. Non Muslims are given 3 options. First to embrace Islam willingly, 2nd, to pay the jizha tribute (tax), 3rd option is to be fought. So, waging war in Islam is the last option when dealing with the disbelievers.

2. One who totally rejects and denounces prayer is given a chance to repent. Afterwards and in case he insists he is sentenced to DEATH.

3. Permissibility of fighting those who refrain from pain, zuca, the poor

4.Muslims blood and wealth are well protected in Islam

5.As human beings we judge with outward appearances Allah judges according to the inward

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