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15 years ago @ The New Civil Rights M... - A Small Town Gay Teen'... · 0 replies · +4 points

Is it just me or have we seen this rhetoric before?

The Matthew Shepard Act was signed by President Obama almost a year ago (10/28/09). Can anyone tell me where all those victimized pastors are incarcerated? Surely, there must be hundreds if not thousands. After all, Mr. Perkins and Mr. Fischer assured us that the purpose of Hate Crimes laws was to criminalize biblical bigotry. According to Tony "What 'hate crimes' legislation does is lay the legal foundation and framework for investigating, prosecuting and persecuting pastors, business owners, and anyone else whose actions reflect their faith."

Where and when did all those prosecutions take place?

17 years ago @ Big Hollywood - My Real Time With Bill... · 1 reply · -1 points

How does the argumentum ad hominem approach work for you?

The "sole arbiter" proposition is baloney. My opinions are mine.

I am quite familiar with ID. As the courts have ruled ( Kitzmiller v. Dover), ID is repackaged creationism.

It has no more scientific basis than astrology. Again, I suspect that Mr. Goldwater would have f fully agreed that science and critical thinking belong in the classroom in contrast to religious indoctrination.

17 years ago @ Big Hollywood - My Real Time With Bill... · 3 replies · -2 points

See my comment below. A religious crazy - to me - is someone who wants to impose, by force of law, religious doctrine on society. Possibly, the most egregious example of this is the effort to introduce intelligent design into our schools.

I think that Mr. Goldwater would be in complete agreement. The religious right and its excessive involvement in politics is, in my opinion, a serious threat to liberty.

I do NOT subscribe to the belief that people of faith are stupid. I just don't want them to be an extension of government in my bedroom, hospital, laboratory or school.

David Hart
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17 years ago @ Big Hollywood - My Real Time With Bill... · 5 replies · -2 points

Let me be clear. My late grandmother kept a Kosher home. Doing so, does not depict her as a "religious crazy" (AB used the term "religious yahoo"). However, if Bubbe ever tried to make the consumption of pork and shellfish illegal, I would then label her as a religious crazy.

The fight over Evolution is a very good example. Intelligent design is an effort by the religious right to introduce scripture over science in our schools. As it is, our students perform FAR below the 30 largest industrialized countries. Thus when people attempt to dumb down our children with scriptural indoctrination they are RELIGIOUS CRAZIES.

17 years ago @ Big Hollywood - My Real Time With Bill... · 22 replies · -16 points

Give Bill some credit. Aside from inviting you he was a fair arbiter of both time and expression. You failed to address the real problem AB which is that the GOP has been hijacked by religious crazies. BTW, while you cringed at the notion that Limbaugh is a racist - he is certainly sexually prejudiced (I try not to use the term homophobic).

17 years ago @ Change.gov - Change.gov: The Obama-... · 0 replies · 0 points

This is NOT the first insult to the gay community. After the Donnie McClurkin flap I was hoping for a bit more sensitivity. I am reasonably certain that the "Warren issue" was discussed. I am equally certain that they expected a backlash. They just didn't give a rodent's derriere. This amounts to cynical political calculus; It certainly doesn't depict change that we can believe in.

Does Mr. Obama simply not understand why we would find this so offensive? Is there a gay adviser even being consulted on these issues? Where is Mehta?

David Hart
http://www.tips-Q.com

17 years ago @ Change.gov - Change.gov: The Obama-... · 0 replies · +2 points

Quoting Sarah Posner at "The Nation:"

"Warren represents the absolute worst of the Democrats' religious outreach, a right-winger masquerading as a do-gooder anointed as the arbiter of what it means to be faithful. Obama's religious outreach was intended, supposedly, to make religious voters more comfortable with him and feel included in the Democratic Party. But that outreach now has come at the expense of other people's comfort and inclusion, at an event meant to mark a turning point away from divisive politics."

17 years ago @ Change.gov - Change.gov: The Obama-... · 2 replies · +2 points

I fully understand that he is reaching out. Part of the problem is timing. We in the gay community are absolutely outraged over Proposition 8. Indeed, Warren is part of an industry that is responsible for choreographing and funding almost 100% of the anti-gay bigotry in this country ( http://www.tips-q.com/content/talking-points-regarding-gay-rights).

Ultimately, this sends a message of tone deafness. I am still very hopeful for the future accomplishments of an Obama Presidency. This decision REALLY hurt.

17 years ago @ Change.gov - Change.gov: The Obama-... · 1 reply · +4 points

On the record in Loving v Virginia is the following:

"Almighty God created the races white, black, yellow, malay and red, and he placed them on separate continents. And but for the interference with his arrangement there would be no cause for such marriages. The fact that he separated the races shows that he did not intend for the races to mix."

Sound familiar? As a gay American, I am deeply disturbed over Rick Warren. Were Rick Warren a segregationist, we would not be having this discussion. You are stuck with him now. You need to find a way to dilute your validation of a bigot. This goes WELL beyond Proposition 8. Warren has likened us to pedophiles. He has regurgitated the talking points of the widely discredited Paul Cameron and he has knowingly lied about Prop 8 silencing ministers.

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