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13 years ago @ KATU - Portland, OR - Obama asserts executiv... · 1 reply · +6 points

You continue to make it apparent you haven't paid attention to what's been going on. Time and again the investigation has backed off on what they asked for, time and again they've been met with "no." Hell, subpoenas didn't even enter the equation until long after they should have. So tell me again who isn't compromising?

But even then, there are certain things that shouldn't be compromised. Finding the answers in exchange for covering up wrong doing is one of them. That's like saying the NDAA and Patriot Act are good because they had bipartisan support.

13 years ago @ KATU - Portland, OR - Obama asserts executiv... · 3 replies · +7 points

"But who has been willing to compromise in this, and who has not?"

Yes indeed, who has? IF you are in fact not partisan, it's becoming apparent you haven't been following the case. Only one side has been uncooperative, lies continually, backpedals when caught in the lie, and then has to retract their lies, only to repeat it on the next iteration as more documents get provided by whistleblowers. What's worse still is their supporters on the various committees, because they're not under oath they can lie in even bigger and more grandiose ways.

"The reality is it will strengthen the administration's hand."

Not in the court room as you are so found of pointing out. In the court room Cumming's shenanigans go away and I can't imagine the judge will look very fondly on Holder's perpetual lying, backpedaling, and retracting. Nor the retaliating against whistleblowers that has ensued.

"I'm just playing the odds"

Actually you're conflating public opinion from events like the limited release of clean documents with what a judge in a courtroom will decide. With the former you're picking the odds right, with the latter I don't think any of us know the odds, Issa and Obama included.

13 years ago @ KATU - Portland, OR - Obama asserts executiv... · 0 replies · +7 points

But that would contradict what Holder has said under oath, as well as what Obama has said for himself as well! ;-)

13 years ago @ KATU - Portland, OR - Obama asserts executiv... · 5 replies · +7 points

Very good, you showed us you know how to look up a definition in the dictionary, but given your statements, and the especially amusing fact that you think your registration status is some sort of defense against being partisan, you clearly don't understand it.

I'd like you give you credit for maybe trying to plays devils advocate but you keep beating this dead horse as if you've become more personally invested in it. There are no national security concerns (according to them), this hasn't involved the president (according to them), the requested documents were not the president's advisers advising him, and they are not the deliberative processes of the President or his advisers, yet you insist on repeatedly copy&pasting it over and over, as if you say it often enough (loud enough?) people will be swayed. And as I pointed out you even resorted to strawman fallacies and try to act like that wasn't what you were doing.

You've picked a side, and it's not based on any rational analysis of the facts.

13 years ago @ KATU - Portland, OR - Obama asserts executiv... · 7 replies · +6 points

Partisan. You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

13 years ago @ KATU - Portland, OR - Obama asserts executiv... · 0 replies · +8 points

Wow, you mean you didn't just say that the operation's genesis documents would be covered by the executive privilege? Because I could swear that was what I was replying to, as a matter of fact it's still there.

Sure sounds like one of us is a partisan hack twisting at windmills for his messiah. I'm sure you'll dispute which one of us it is, but I think the rest of the readers are able to figure that one out on their own ;-).

13 years ago @ KATU - Portland, OR - House committee holds ... · 2 replies · +11 points

That's what terrifies me, justice is the ONE thing government has to absolutely get right. If they can't do that, then there's no point in even having a government.

13 years ago @ KATU - Portland, OR - House committee holds ... · 0 replies · +13 points

Oh and lets not forget that Holder has had to refute your claims in several committee hearings. Most recently he got his nice little sound bite in during the hearing, but the DOJ has since had to retract his statement for him.

13 years ago @ KATU - Portland, OR - House committee holds ... · 0 replies · +14 points

Oh you mean the operations that attempted to work a sting with the Mexican authorities but ended up botched? And by botched, I mean the Mexican authorities didn't do their job of arresting the bad guys as they crossed the border.

As opposed to this operation which just helped straw purchasers (some of which were felons!) buy guns and then helped smuggle the guns across the border with no attempts or design to catch them?

Oh yes, I see, they're totally the same.... /sarc

13 years ago @ KATU - Portland, OR - Obama asserts executiv... · 5 replies · +7 points

Please, you're just embarrassing yourself. OCDETF forms, and other applications for approval and funding are not covered by this, and you know it.

You're tilting at windmills Don Quixote.

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