Lednah, I agree with your sentiment, but the larger truth is that we as a nation must draw a line somewhere to show what is important to us. If a law is just, it shouldn't be a problem. I guess that begs the question - how does one determine whether a law is just or unjust? I'll let Dr. Martin Luther King answer for me: "A just law squares with the moral law and the law of God. An unjust law ...is out of harmony with the moral law."
I will keep you in my prayers that you find your way back home. It's sad, really. I've speoke to many former Protestants who found the fullness of the faith within the Catholic Church and have nothing but good things to say about their former beliefs. What they used to believe is now so much fuller and richer than before, and they are glad for the experiences that they grew up with.
Not so with ex-Catholics. When I meet an ex-Catholic, it's like they stay on the defensive, always havving to justify leaving the Church. And yes, I've heard all the anti-Catholic arguments, specifically from people like Bart Brewer and Richard Bennett. a former Catholic priest whom I've heard in person. The one word describing the overriding tone to everything they say is "bitter." I'm sure they are quite sincere in what they believe, but taking the Church's teachings out of context and attacking false or baseless arguments feels more like what Karl Keating recounted: "someone who jilted a girlfriend and is now taking every opportunity to talk her down."
"If the world gave up on religion we would all be much safer" Really? Tell that to the hundreds of millions murdered at the hands of atheist dictators like Stalin, Pol Pot, and Hitler. The bloodiest and most savage century in human history was dominated by forms of atheistic Marxism (e.g., the Soviet Union) and neo-pagan Fascism (e.g., Nazi Germany).
Dave Hunt? Dave Hunt? Oh, puh-leeze. That man and his wacked thoughts have been totally refuted by James Akin of Catholic Answers.
Do yourself a favor and read what a Catholic has to say about Mr. Hunt's "theology":
http://www.catholic.com/thisrock/1994/9409fea4.as...
Not the only defense, just the most important part of any defensive counter-move. God bless B16!
"Hearing one’s very identity regularly used as a synonym for 'inadequate' or 'undesirable' on a daily basis does more than just hurt feelings."
You see, Patrick, that is the crux of your problem. By making that statement, you and every other active homosexual want to see the world through a "gay" lens. The fact that you identify a person's urge with their "very identity" shows how confused this whole issue has become. We've forgotten that sex is not what you do; it's who you are. Biologically and ontologically men are men and women are women. That is the order of the universe. The dis-order occurs when people violate the purpose behind human sexual activity.
There are still many of us who refuse to reduce a person to their desires. Unfortunately, the gay community and its adherents have chosen to do just the opposite and make the desire itself the overiding factor in a person's identity.
SarahTX2 - while no one is happy with the sex scandals that broke in early 2002, it was later revealed that the majority of the offenders were homosexual priests preying on teenage boys. Not that it makes it any better, or justifies even one young person being abused, but please be careful about throwing around the "children" line. Also, "pointless celibacy" actually "points" to your lack of understanding about the priesthood. The priest is an alter Chrsitus, or another Christ, and since Jesus remained a celibate while on earth to establish His kingdom, the priesthood will forever do the same. Following Christ's example is hardly pointless. And lastly, a "hatred of women"? Really? Who have you been listening to, Sr. Joan Chittister? Please name me one religion that has anything close to the number of women who are held up as models as the Catholic Church, starting with the Mary, the Blessed Mother. Far from a hatred of women, the Church has been the one place to honor them for 2,000 years.
Hey Mac - if the Church is truly a "mind control freak" then why can't it just control the robotic faithful to show up for confession? Seems to me that there wouldn't be a need for an upcoming document on the benefits of confession if we're all under the evil spell of Rome. If you're gonna try and make an argument for something, at least make it sound a little more probable. And also - the Church doesn't believe in karma, so I guess that theory is out.
Hmm. Obviously you've never been to confession. If you had, you would know that (1) it can be done incognito, i.e., behind a screen with total anonymity, and (2) all priests are bound by the seal of confession to not reveal anything, or face some serious after-life consequences.
BTW - just curious, but why do people of all stripes, with no connection to the Catholic Church, feel the need to comment on Church issues?