This is likely to turn out to be one of those cases where the owner is somehow involved in the wrong doing. And I side with those who advocate for the ultimate demise of the culprit, regardless of who it might be. Done & done.

No, people are getting ignorant and stupid. In this case the contractor and the city inspectors were both. and those that can't get their pea brains wrapped around that are another breed of the same cat.

It doesn't matter if NOTHING happened, and NOTHING was harmed. Even though it could have been a human being. The morons who did the work FAILED to do the most basic, rudimentary grounding. It's like blocking and tackling in football. If you can't do those basics, the NFL probably isn't going to make you a "professional". That is what they get paid to do. They were "stupid" and incompetent and put others at risk in the process. That is reason enough to can their butts. Ya get paid to do a job, if you do it wrong, ya get canned, what is so tough to understand about that? And, if in the process you happen to kill some living entity, you SHOULD get sued. That's the way it works. Sheez.

I hope the case goes to trial and some jury awards the dog owner 10X punitive damages, and that every pinhead who had a role in this cluster (private contractor, and gov't inspector) loses their job. The only thing that would frost that cake would be if the court ordered the sterilization of all the com-mentors on here that don't GET-IT to reduce the chances that they might propagate. ;-)

Just rake 'em, don't drive 'em. ;-)

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Total Reclaim & their subsidiary Ecolights Northwest actually recycle much more than block foam. They literally recycle anything that runs on electricity as long as there are no fluids or fuels involved. So, pretty-much any E-Waste, including computers, etc. They also recycle most types of batteries. Ecolights Northwest, at the same address, recycles just about any type of light bulb or whole lighting fixture, too. Total Reclaim also recycles HVAC and refrigerant containing appliances such as A/C units and refrigerators, freezers, etc.

Dear sweetpea1970,

You make good points with your examples of Union failures to take care of all the individual cases that you site.

But, I don't care that you are going to change your original comment because it is very easy to address now that you have expressed why you feel the way you do about Unions.

It is not unusual for Republicans and conservatives to take a "waht have you done for me lately", short-sighted perspective that is primarily focused on the NOW, and the ME. What i mean by that is the lack of a big-picture, broader perspective.

Without ANY UNION, even TODAY, the FACT is that you would be making even less than $18K and underage children would be forced into slave-labor conditions just like the 3rd-world countries that you read about. And don't even waste both of our time here denying the possibility of that because I can bury this message board with links to examples of the Corporatocracy's efforts to move the American labor force in precisely that way.

Your message expresses your dissatisfaction with your compensation AND your dissatisfaction with Unions, and yet YOU don't offer ANY solution other than knuckling-under to the Corporatocracy by supporting the political party which has always, historically waged war on the only alternative, and the middle class itself. By not supporting Unions because your personal experiences with them have not been effective, just means that you, like all Republicans want someone else to do the heavy lifting for you ... your responses all sound to me like, "hey these Unions aren't making my life any better, so I'm going to support the only option I see before me, which is the party who wants to enslave me even more ... I'll just go-along-to-get-along as the Republicans continue to try and total eliminate Unions altogether". Then what sweetpea1970? Then what? Did Mom & Dad tell you somewhere along the way that you should trust in the rich, robber-baron carpet-bagging Corporate executive to take care of your best interests? If so, do you really still believe that crap?

Sure Unions have been rendered weaker and wounded and less effective in helping their membership. And that has heppend because this REALLY is a WAR ... a war bertween the haves, and the have nots. The relationship between Management and Labor is as much of an adversarial relationship as any that exists.

This is a FACT: it is managments' job to get the most production for the least expense possible, and it is labors' job to get the most income from the least output possible. It is a FACT of any Capitalist economy.

AND, management has the edge. Management has all the resources on their side.

You and the rest of labor has squat ... it is like Labor is taking a knife into a gun fight.

The ONLY thing that labor has is the ability to organize, and Repuke law makers have been trying to steal that right ever since Reagan started the war on Unions that has persisted ever since. The Repukes have wounded Unions. Unions have been weakened in recent decades, no question. And that is why your "perception" is that somehow their time has come and gone. In reality, Unions are needed more today as in the worst of Labor times that caused their creation in the first place.

sweetpea1970, my first gig came in 1968. Today my income is a bit over the American median statistically. That and 5-bucks will get me coffee at Starbucks. But what might surprise you is that my business card has the word Manager on it somewhere and over all that time I have even owned my own business. Why tell you those things? To emphasize that I know what managements' perspective and slant on labor versus bottomline and executive compensation is from the INSIDE. I'm telling you that management and the Corporatocracy will NEVER "do-the-right-thing" for labor unless FORCED to do so. Who can WORK at making that happen if not Unions? Answer: "Nobody".

So, you keep voting with Republicans and you'll be voting against your own best interest. But whoever you vote for ... it ain't enough if you want "stuff" to get better. Ya gotta fight the good fight. You gotta care about more than "what have they done for me lately". You gotta care about a bigger picture than just your personal slice. If you don't it's never getting any better for any of us. Period.

When Republican politicians tell you that we have to give the top 1% of the richest of the rich more tax breaks because they are the ones who own all the businesses and can create jobs for all of us ... they are LYING their asses off to protect their on fat wallets and they could care less about the $18/yr secretary ... and sweetpeas1970 ... none of them will stand toe to toe with me and argue that FACT, because I will expose their BS with little effort. You are being conned and I know it to be true.

Good luck.

Politics is by definition an adversarial environment. Republicans drew the line in the sand by trying to turn our Democracy into a Corporatocracy, and now they get all indignant whenever they can't shout-down the opposition, or buy them off.

"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness."--John Kenneth Galbraith

Did I mention that I don't like Republicans? Heck, I don't even like anyone who likes a Republican! ;-)

Apparently SweetPea your whole family's education is the net of Bush's every child left behind policy because you misread and misquoted my comment entirely.

Either that or each member of your family makes more than $250K annually and just want to propagate the lies put out by Lush Bimbaugh and Glenn Wreck to each of your own economic advantage over the majority who do not net more than $250K annually.

Or perhaps you'd like to work 7-days per weeks and do so for less than the minimum wage fought for by Unions? You can thank a Union for the 8-hour day and the 7-day week, but you are probably too young to know and understand any of that. You probably believe that the Corporatocracy gives a damn about you because your mommy and daddy told you they do. You probably believe that giving Millionaires $100,000/yr tax break will creates jobs too. If so, no doubt you believe in the tooth fairy too. Gimmie a break.

Tell ya what, try getting NFL players to give up their Union.