BTW - Dr Con Job There is no evidence that Ann was not a Muslim. She married 2 different Muslims. After marrying the first Muslim it's obvious that all bets are off that she absolutely wasn't a Muslim because she moved to a predominantly Muslim country to be with her 2nd Muslim husband.
For what it's worth this guy claims that he can see Ann wearing a burqa in a doctored picture of the Soetoro family. :
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/nicoloffthreestoog...
( Photo 6A analysis.)

Don't even try to claim that every picture he analyzed isn't doctored.
The pic (Photo 3 A) allegedly showing Barry with Gramps and Madelyn is so badly doctored that Gramp's arm would have to take about 4 turns to have his hand show up on Barry's shoulder.
Considering how few Muslims there were living in the USA during the early 1960s.
Ann could have married any number of non-Muslims but she didn't. She instead decided to marry 2 Muslims in a row.
In the end however we were discussing Barry being a Muslim and lying about it.
Barry attended and prayed at the local mosques and wore the traditional Muslim clothing while in Indonesia. Barry needed to "convert from something to make the claim that he was a "Christian". The whole myth created about Ann being a "mid-western" girl was also a con job that sucked in the gullible Obots to make it appear that she was just like the girl next door except she married 2 Muslim men in a row.
The 1st Muslim was a serial cheater. He beat his other White wife. Likely he beat Ann too and yet she married another Muslim.
So keep trying to act as if you can prove that Ann wasn't a Muslim by acting as if I have to prove it. Quoting Barry's claims from Dreams is a lost cause. Barry's claims in Dreams is so full of lies that it can't be relied on as a source for facts concerning Barry.

It doesn't even have to seem butt head Obot jerk. Barry never could keep his lies straight. BTW - None of my ancestors were Muslims duncebot Obot. So you are grasping at straws. Obama was born a Muslim just as his father was born a Muslim. And it even came out of Barry's own mouth that his own father was "born a Muslim". So it would follow that you are the dunce follower of Barry that was born a Muslim and yet lied that he had ever been a Muslim.

I cited several different sources that demonstrated that Ann hired Subud members. Changed her last married given name from Soetoro to Suturo which is what Subud cultists do.
Ann is linked to the Subud cult which is by even their own admission has a very small world wide following. So the odds that a small cult would be used to fill the translation duties is beyond incredibly scant. Keep trying butt head Obot. Barry lied about being smeared and posted images to which you base your whole butt head misplaced opinions on for the last 8 years. You haven't got even a molecule to stand on . The word "birther" was only created to be used as an insult as if those doubting a known liar were believing in an unfounded belief. Again the 1991 "born in Kenya" bio proves that it was the Obots that bought into the unfounded lying claims of Barry the known liar. So for all your stupid attempts to act as if it is the skeptics that have the problems over the last 8 years. It's always been the Obots that have had the problems with reality. The skeptics of course have the legitimate problem of tracking down who Barry actually is and where he was on August 4th,1961. That's been largely solved because not only wasn't Barry not being smeared but he wrote the very words that placed his POB in Kenya. Too bad Dr Con Job. You lost the debate back in 1991 because the "born in Kenya" fact began with Barry. So Barry is the original and 1 and only "birther" that started spreading the false rumors that he was being smeared when it's obvious that he never was being smeared because Barry is THE source for his foreign birth problems. That said you are either too stupid to realize that you've been conned or in up past your receding hairline as an accomplice in the whole criminal charade.
From day one butt head the words on the COLB image called for a court proceeding. Nothing even on that forgery stated that the image was prima facie evidence of anything. Only a moron Obot would buy the claims of a known liar based on an image that has language on it that disputes the idea that the Obots had anything to base their elitist snob Obot claims.

Best ask Barry himself stupid goomba Obot because Barry openly states that his own father "was born a Muslim.". :
"My father, who returned to Kenya when I was just two, was born a Muslim..." -Barry

It's simply Muslim theology that states that the children of Muslims are born Muslims.

Then as far as Ann being a member of teh Subud cult it was chronicled in her bio .

"By Staff Reporter...

A Singular Woman: The Untold Story of Barack Obama's Mother,a biography of the mother of US President Obama, Ann DunhamSutoro, contains several references to Subud. As is generally known Obama lived with his mother in Jakarta for some years...

Arianne (no second name) wrote to me to say, "Talked to Irin Poellot who is reading the book about Obama's mother and has already run into several literal mentions of Subud!!! I remember the late Mansur Madeiros mentioning he knew her in Indonesia and he is mentioned in the book! I can't help wondering if we will get inquiries about Subud since it is mentioned often in a book which probably will be widely read. It also is a delicious fact that our Subud sister, Ms Fuddy, just was appointed to her post in the Health Dept in Hawaii in time to be involved in the documentation of fact that Obama was born there."
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2014/01/b...
"I wrote back asking for more specific information and Arianne replied, "Irin kindly supplied some quotes:In chapter 4 "Initiation in Java" the Subud members are quoted. And then (on page 116): "...she (Ann) was hired to start an English-language, business-communications department in one of the few private non profit management-training schools in the country."
Ann "found a group of young Americans and Britons enrolled in an intensive course in Bahasa Indonesia, the national language, at the University of Indonesia recalled Irwan Holmes, (a member of the original group). She was looking for teachers. A half dozen of them accepted her invitation, many of them members of an international spiritual organization, Subud, with a residential compound in a suburb of Jakarta.."
http://www.reddirtreport.com/red-dirt-grit/subud-...
...........Talking about the aforementioned book about Ann Dunham Sutoro (yes, Sutoro, not Soetoro – did she change her name after a conversion to Subud?) the Subud Voice “staff reporter” writes that a reader had written to the reporter noting mentions of Subud in the book on Obama’s mother."

So that's how it works butt head Obot.
Even Obots were falling all over themselves to link Ann to Subud and yet you want to act as if I have the burden of proof against me.
No evidence exists that Dr Con Job ever even tries to hide his Obot bias even a bit.

You have the burden of being a stupid gullible or complicit Obot.

All you do is ignore actual facts while making stuff up.
Barry LIES LIKE A RUG and you can't ever prove that a serial liar like Barry has ever told the truth about being born in Hawaii since all Barry has done is post images and get some shills to visit print out copies of those computer constructed forged images.
How the heck do Obots get as stupid as they are?
From blindly believing Barry no matter how many lies he tells nd no matter how often he yanks their chains to get them to defend him no matter how many lies that he tells.

The only one spouting stupid nonsense is you Dr Con Job. Obots have always been wrong even about the use of the derogatory term "birther" since the 1991 bio proves that Barry wasn't even being smeared at all. Barry was even born a Muslim and attended moques and practiced the Muslim faith and so Barry lied about never being a Muslim and being smeared concerning his religion.
Ann was even a member of a Muslim cult. So Barry even also lied about her beliefs.
Oh and Sarah Obama made a Hajj pilgrimage to Mecca and only Muslims can enter Mecca. Barry also lied about Sarah's beliefs. So you are minus a gazillion and counting Dr Con Job. Barry is a proven serial liar that always lies to make himself appear to be a safe candidate to support.

To clarify Ann was in Hawaii shortly after she dropped out of the UofH. Classes would have ended shortly before Christmas, 1960 and after that there isn't even a marriage license produced that places her in Hawaii during February,1961 ( Obots such as Abercrombie the known liar have tried to claim she was seen with Sr and baby Barry in tow at UofH events,etc. are of course lying since Ann was in Washington because transcripts and phone listings place her there. ) . So from the time she dropped out of the UofH till she pops up again in Washington state. Ann was nowhere. Thus you can't prove Ann was w/in several thousand miles of Hawaii during August,1961 since at the important time in 1961 she was attending classes at the UofW for the 1961 Fall quarter (The Woods memo given via Sr the slippery character is dated after she was in Washington and yet even that memo places her not living in Hawaii at a time when Barry erroneously claimed that she was with Sr. Sr had to be prompted by the INS to acknowledge that Barry was his son. The only child Sr claimed at first was Roy. Auma wasn't even listed in any of Sr's children in the INS documents and yet she was allegedly born in 1961. No wonder Sr was described as a "slippery character". Barry being a known liar obviously was no different than his slippery character father. ) . The images posted by Barry's criminal cohorts are not BCs you Obot dunce. Sensible people realized that the images were not BCs and that is why they went to court to try and get the courts to force Barry to produce a BC. Barry never has produced diddly squat especially in a court proceeding and of course print outs of images posted on the internet aren't BCs either. Obviously you can't get it through your thick skull that you can't prove what hasn't been produced in the form of a BC especially in a court proceeding. Since even the COLB image called for a court proceeding. You never had anything but your own puffery. Ann was listed in the 1961 Seattle phone book living at the Capital Hill tri-plex and Ann's friend had a visit from Ann on Mercer island accompanied by baby Barry. So your silly attempt to use "extension classes" as if that proved that she wasn't in Seattle taking classes fails miserably.
You are simply either stupid or also part of the criminal cartel trying to con the American People. Either way you are just stupidly wrong.

Of course the courts not allowing argument and discovery to even take place means that Barry's phony baloney claims about having a BC from Hawaii has left the Obots with nothing even approaching their Obot Nirvana ! Way to go Dr CON JOB you just keep digging yourself even deeper in denial you pathetic moron. Because the best thing that could have happened for the Obot cause was to have a skeptic actually force the DOH to issue a certified BC and for the court to authenticate it as being a true and accurate original from August 4th,1961.
But then you are just too damned stupid to recognize how stupid your Obot non-point was.
Just the same Ann was not in Hawaii at the required time.
So the court isn't ever going to salvage you from your own pathetic conned state.

Way to try and change the subject yet again Dr CON JOB.
Yup that's right Ann was NOT in Hawaii at all in August 1961 butt head.
Obviously since you are too stuck on stupid to recognize that Ann hadn't been in the Islands for at least several months before August,1961.
You are so obviously stuck on Obot stupid that you or the other Obots legal eagles could not have done better at all in any of the court cases since it takes the elevator going all the way to the top floor to even start trying to go after Barry the known liar in court!
Of course you couldn't even get past the gazillionth floor below ground level because the electricity isn't even connected for the lights to work.
If you trying to build a brick building you wouldn't even have the clay to make the bricks you ignorant baffoon.
You talk big of course but then Barry and his criminal pals know that you and the other Obots are too stupid to even begin to question his phony baloney claims.
And you don't even have a law degree let alone a medical degree.
You are a big phony that likes to challenge everyone's credibility when you lack legal tools yourself.
Obviously you can't even reach up to shine the worst attorney's shoes since you lack the brains to even recognize that you've even been conned.
So how could you do any better?
You couldn't of course because of course Obots are simply just too moronic to even know that they are just useful idiots being played by a con man that can't even find a better con that to post some phony baloney images online and then get some blatantly unqualified shills to vouch for the phony images as if they were BCs!
When you get a clue that you have been conned get back to us you pathetically conned dipstick.
Barry lied about getting smeared and you are in the infinite side of the negative IQ department because you stupidly think that Barry was the victim when he was actually the perpetrator.
So nice try Dr CON JOB.
You made no point because of course you haven't even tried to challenge an ineligible piece of dirt in court.
Show us all how you could do better.
Oh that's right you pathetic POC .You still mistakenly think that images posted online are BCs and that Barry was being smeared and the DOH is prohibited from disclosing anything about the files to everyone that lacks direct and tangible interest in the files! The DOH can't even disclose about a request for a certificate.

When has Barry ever been sworn in to then be cross examined as to his erroneous claims? Oh that's right NEVER. When has any DOH employee ever been sworn in to be cross examined? Oh that's right NEVER! Which of the Factcheck employees? Nope never. Which of the reporters at the Press Gaggle? Nope NEVER. When has a "Hawaiian BC bearing Barry's name been authenticated via a court proceeding as a "true and correct copy" ? The phony LFBC alleges it is either a true and correct copy or an "abstract" ( LOL) then the Obots lose on that count right out of the chute. The whereabouts of Ann at the critical time drops a bomb on the Obots hopes. Ann was not living anywhere near Sr . So even if the birth announcements exist as written. Sr had two different apartments. Ann can't be placed living at either ione and yet why wouldn't one of his apartment addresses be listed instead of an address where Ann was last listed as a "student" Ann hadn't been a "student" since she dropped out of the UofH and wouldn't again be a "student" until she moved to Washington to become a new student at the UofW for the Fall quarter of 1961. New students needed to be registered by no later than August 1st,1961. Ann was placed on Mercer Island in August,1961 but was listed living at the Capital Hill tri-plex apartment which is convenient to the UofW campus while Mercer Island is not convenient at all to the UofW campus. Thus the claim of a Mr and Mrs Barack Obama living at the so called "birth announcement address" as cited is factually incorrect.
Gramps and Madelyn lived there. So it's most likely that one of them placed the announcement independent of the DOH being able to do so. And since Ann was not in Hawaii when and where claimed. Oops no Hawaiian birth on August 4th ,1961. Barry lied about being smeared. The Obots are in denial that Barry conned them.

The filing is given to the court as evidence. DUH.
That's not the problem for the skeptics Dr Con Job butt head Obot.
Since there has never been a trial ever Barry has also NEVER entered anything into evidence to even try to prove his claims. DUH.
In fact Barry's defense has been the ones trying to keep the court from hearing any and all evidence in a court proceeding.
For roughly $ 200 or so dollars Barry could have given every judge a copy of a certified "BC" as evidence of his erroneous claims. Instead his defense has been to stall,make jokes and dodge all attempts to even have any "BC" or DOH employee be subpoenaed to give statements as evidence.
IF Barry were telling the truth.
It would have easily been in his best interest to have dropped all of the efforts to block a trial.
The FACTS are that even the phony COLB image states that an (Actual physical) COLB is prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in a COURT PROCEEDING. So the gullible Obots started off their silly quest for the defense of a known liar based on images that are NON-Evidence. DUH
The LFBC image is and has always only been an image. The reporters and Factcheck employees aren't document experts and so they could not offer expert testimony regarding what they visited. They also lacked the legal power to investigate what they visited.
IOWs - They were merely shills that were used to fool the gullible Obots into mistakenly believing Barry's claims had been independently authenticated.
Pfeiffer couldn't even get the alleged year for when the phony COLB was obtained correct and yet you want to get nit picky about the minister using an alias to protect his life.

You are merely harping about a person using an another name to protect his life. THE AFFIDAVIT WAS ENTERED INTO EVIDENCE. IF the author lied he or she would be committing perjury. Go prove the author wasn't Brother Tom. Notions aren't a "they" butt head. As far as being clueless that would be every Obot that mistakenly believes that images posted online are BCs. Since an image can't be physically stamped by the DOH. An image is NOT evidence at all for Barry's erroneous claims. The FACT is that the DOH simply can't authenticate that the DOH issued an image posted by Barry's camp. The DOH is prohibited BY LAW from disclosing from or about the documents in the DOH vaults to those that lack direct and tangible interest in those documents and that includes disclosing about or from a request for certificates.