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15 years ago @ KOMO - Seattle, WA - Man arrested for shini... · 0 replies · -30 points
Bright light is not more damaging. A deep red or UV laser will not be bright at all, be cause extream damage if teh power levels are right - you won't even know your indanger until it is too late. A green pen lazer will give the person time to look-adversion time.
HE should not be shinning lasers at airplanes bar none, but it is not as dangerous as peaple have made it to be.
16 years ago @ KOMO - Seattle, WA - ボーイングのス... · 0 replies · +1 points
As I post yesterday - There are agencies (private and governmental) that perform market studies that 'help' determine the pay scales for different jobs within the country and state; but not set them. As an employer, one can 'subscribe to their help' or 'guess' for your self. My guess is Boeing does their own studies as does the IAM /SPEEA groups and each study is bias in their own way.
When I worked for a research and engineering company, and hired engineers, I used a 'job shop' contract company to help determine what the pay scales where. During the interviews I disclosed this information, so that we all know what the pay scales where based on. As you know, these pay scales change from job to job, experience to experience and location to location. Determining base pay was easy; factoring in what the other benefits were worth was more difficult and some what subjective.
Thanks for listening.
16 years ago @ KOMO - Seattle, WA - Boeing strikers encour... · 0 replies · +1 points
I said:
-Even with the tax breaks, the costs of doing business elsewhere (other state or country)is lower.
-Your strike is increasing the cost of doing business within this state.
-Boeing will always choose the long term low cost option
16 years ago @ KOMO - Seattle, WA - ボーイングのス... · 1 reply · 0 points
There are agencies (private and governmental) that perform market studies that 'help' determine the pay scales for different jobs within the country and state; but not set them.
As an employer, one can 'subscribe to their help' or 'guess' for your self. My guess is Boeing does their own studies as does the IAM /SPEEA groups and each study is bias in their own way.
Thanks
16 years ago @ KOMO - Seattle, WA - ボーイングのス... · 0 replies · +1 points
It was nice to actually receive a friendly informative reply. You have helped me 'see' things in a different picture. I don't have a rebuttal and I would have to understand all of your previous 'take aways' in order to formulate one.
I am a firm believer that each employee should be paid according to their abilities and worth to the company. I also believe that a well run company should pass out the riches when the time are good. The converse is also true too. There is always a fine line between 'passing out the riches' and reinvest it else where; a well run company will pass out enough riches and reinvest wisely.
From what I hear you're saying is "Boeing is not a well run company when it come to 'sharing the riches' vs. reinvesting". I'm making the assumption Boeing is investing its $$ somewhere other than IAM workers.
I do hope you all will return to work soon.
Thanks for the 'friendly' post.
16 years ago @ KOMO - Seattle, WA - ボーイングのス... · 3 replies · -3 points
16 years ago @ KOMO - Seattle, WA - ボーイングのス... · 3 replies · -2 points
No Line move? Airbus has a first rate, very efficient A320 manufacturing system in Europe. Airbus is also building an A320 line in China. With the 787 orders nearing 900, and considering its potential, there are plenty of opportunities to start else where.
So, don’t kid your selves…..Boeing will always opt for the long term low cost solution.
16 years ago @ KOMO - Seattle, WA - Boeing strikers encour... · 0 replies · +1 points
Both IAM and SPEEA pay scales are easily accessed.
As I said before, I am not in Boeing management.
Most business decisions are based on reducing their overall costs.
I said "IF" Boeing builds a new line, it will be based on the lowest cost business model.
Since Boeing is a Global Company they have lots of options open to them.
From my understanding, there are other states (maybe countries) that offer lower cost solutions; regardless of the tax (WA) credits you mentioned earlier.
I am not claiming to have special powers, insight or insider info. I am claiming that your strike is raising the cost of doing business within Washington State, hence lowering your chances of seeing a second 787 line.
16 years ago @ KOMO - Seattle, WA - Boeing strikers encour... · 3 replies · 0 points
I can not tell you what Boeing will do, nor what you make. I can say that for the aerospace industries, Boeing workers, IAM and SPEEA are compensated at or above industry standards. I can also assure you that if Boeing decides on a 2nd 787 production line, the location will be based on the low cost business model. There are other states, east of the Mississippi that will be lower cost than Everett. The IAM strike is only increasing the cost of doing business within Washington. This strike will increase the cost of delivering every 7n7 built in Everett. Increasing the short and long term costs of each aircraft build in Everett, does not increase your job security or give you a bigger pay check.
Why aren't the IAM workers in Huntington Beach on strike?
16 years ago @ KOMO - Seattle, WA - Boeing strikers encour... · 5 replies · -3 points
I know that Boeing could build another 787 line in Everett. It could make good financial sense to do this. Unfortunately, the cost of doing business in Washington is very high. In order to be competitive with a 'state funded' Airbus, Boeing must reduce its costs across the board; if/when another production line is formed.
DebateMan-
How about just letting let the market decide what your skills set is worth.
I have seen Boeing strikers come looking for jobs.
Boeing has some very skilled workers that 'other companies' would like to employee. Unfortunately, your strike has caused other companies to slow/stop production; job cuts. Also, flooding the market with workers.
So - If you can make more money as a 'pipe fitter', go for it.
If you can make more money as a 'dry waller', go for it.
IF you can find better work within a union or not, go for it.
If you believe they offer better year around job security, then please make your move.
If you find other types of work more full filling than building airplanes with Boeing, then go for it.
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