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14 years ago @ KATU - Portland, OR - TSA: Some gov\'t offic... · 0 replies · +5 points

Take it for what it's worth but Adam Savage of Myth Buster's says he had no problem sneaking 2 12" razor saw blades on, through a scanner and pat down.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3yaqq9Jjb4

14 years ago @ KATU - Portland, OR - Schools superintendent... · 1 reply · +1 points

I quoted you before, so now it's me quoting myself, quoting you:
You state: I personally don't believe that some people are born dumb and some smart.

That sounds like a no variance situation to me. As for the other I will again quote myself from earlier:

We are not talking about uneducated to educated, we are talking educated to genius area. All populations benefit from increasing the education of it's people to 100%.

This means I believe everyone having an education will increase the "mean" intelligence level of the population. From their you have to drill down and make distinctions between who is intelligent and who is not and stop wasting time teaching people who don't have the right parts to begin with. No not everyone can become Tesla with hard work. A Geo Metro won't ever beat a Dodge Viper, regardless of what you do to it. How can you argue against genetic predisposition of intelligence when there is evidence everywhere?

14 years ago @ KATU - Portland, OR - A Walmart in Gresham? ... · 1 reply · 0 points

Edward Deming was a statistician, The Walmart family owns slots 4-7 of the richest people in America. I tend to believe the people who are the richest and what they did. If it was true innovation drives business than we wouldn't see cookie cutter manufacturing as one of the key industries in developed countries. Look a China for example, most of our jobs are going over their but their is zero innovation, they are just putting items we have already created into a very large consumer market.

14 years ago @ KATU - Portland, OR - Schools superintendent... · 3 replies · +1 points

From what I understand we don't know if size actually matters. Right now we just started a collection of 80,000 different brains on display for medical scientists to figure out if there is anything qualitatively that we can assets about each brain.
It's can be thought of as somewhat conjecture at this point but as mentioned by observing the world around you, you can see there is certainly variety that can only come from one's brain. The fact that mentally handicap people exists is a flaw in the argument that everyone is the same, that kind of thinking leads people with an average intellect to believe it was their fault they didn't work hard enough which ultimately is untrue.
Call it pessimistic, condensing, or whatever you want, but you can't call it untrue.

14 years ago @ KATU - Portland, OR - Schools superintendent... · 5 replies · +1 points

Obviously I've enraged you to descend to name calling, and please excuse my grammar it is late. As for the belief that humans aren't born in variety, I throughly disagree. Your thought of a Geo Metro beating a Dodge viper out of gumption, is certainly the common thought among Americans. However everyone knows that it requires a proper framework to even begin trying to race. A human is no different. Look at all the so called damaged brains, brains of different shape and size. There is two pounds of grey matter that we know nothing about but pretend to believe we can somehow control the outcomes.

I do appreciate the Hitler reference, and I certainly think it's apt to bring up. This kind of thought process has allowed deviants to make certain moral hurdles a lot less challenging and certainly should be pointed out when first seen.

However it doesn't change that people are born differently, have different lifestyle, circumstances, and body parts which ultimately dictate their lives. Certainly their are outliers, just like Cuba investing 18% in public education, but these shouldn't be seen as the bar we set all people to.

14 years ago @ KATU - Portland, OR - Schools superintendent... · 7 replies · +2 points

I believe the argument began with Tesla and Einstein level intelligence and I stated that this first begins with good parts, ie a brain.

You state: I personally don't believe that some people are born dumb and some smart.

So if we were to conclude what you are talking about is that all of us given opportunity can be a Tesla? This is again that you stated people aren't born either way, smart or dumb.

Baring ******s, and people with learning disabilities I would have to disagree. If anything nature has been random in humans as well as it's other species. Some trees just grow faster and are then breed, some dogs just manage to smell better than others. Why does this law stop when applied to humans? Did we somehow evolve into a constant?

Now I agree there is certainly a percentage to be gained teaching the masses but its going to be marginal at best. Moving the bar will just change where the diffusion starts. Adding more money by ratio which percent is, doesn't appear to do much. An outliers but Cuba reigns in at 18% and look what they produce?

Humans are born in variety of dumb to genius and public education accounts for it with their grading system, of which moving the bar only will effect the minority population effecting do nothing to population as a whole. We are not talking about uneducated to educated, we are talking educated to genius area. All populations benefit from increasing the education of it's people to 100%.

14 years ago @ KATU - Portland, OR - Schools superintendent... · 9 replies · +1 points

I actually had a hard time finding numbers on China's public education spending, but I did find a comparison and I would say almost all countries spend between 3-5% GDP on education of which we are on par with.
I didn't find any numbers for graduated professional in the fields you speaking of in foreign countries (china just refuses surveys). It seems this number is ethereal and thrown around just in debate with no real firm backing. This isn't to say that perhaps we aren't on par in that way but then again we are describing probably a few percent difference.
My arguement was more toward the fact that we just don't account for the majority growth and the narrowing genius minority. Over time regardless public education systems will drop. Anything above 60% is a passing grade, so consider that at least 60% of your population will pass some of the classes with that grade, over time you have 60% be the majority.
In japan ( I'm unaware of how China does) 60% isn't a passing grade, it's not passing till 75%. What this effectively has done is move the majority of their population into no-pass in order to cull out even less but more quality graduates. There is not more of them, there is actually less in comparison of numbers, and there is a huge drop in quality of life for the other percentages. Suicide is very high.

In conclusion, raising the bar, or raising the money does not equal a smarter population. What I made mention before it's what type of brain you have in you. To make a car analogy you can't put a nice 2009 Dodge Viper motor in a Geo Metro and expect to race everyone down at PIR. Nor will raising the standards at PIR of who can race fix the Geo Metro's Motor Linkage problem.

14 years ago @ KATU - Portland, OR - A Walmart in Gresham? ... · 3 replies · -1 points

I mentioned this in my other posts below, you really can't compare Walmart to the rest. A guy below mentioned Sears, who's entire net assets is 30 billion, Walmart made $400 billion in revenue last year, that is more than enough to buy Sears 11 times and have left over.

As for your example of a successful business owner, it's complete bull that your just making up off the top of your head. I have read the studies, seen the impact and know without a doubt the reality of the situation. I'm not saying that it's a bad thing I just want people to get the facts straight, Walmart isn't creating more jobs, nor should a well run highly optimized free market corporation should. It's a perfect example of what a capitalistic market driven by demand will produce. It will mean less jobs because it's been made with bottom line profit in mind, labor costs and if you can get it the cheapest possible, with the fewest possible you will make more money in the end. Once again Walmart doesn't not create jobs it actually has a negative impact and is built that way.

14 years ago @ KATU - Portland, OR - A Walmart in Gresham? ... · 0 replies · +2 points

How in the hell did you make that leap to communism? Sears can't do the same things that Walmart does. When you pull in a $408.21 billion in revenue you can demand prices lower than anyone else. Sears entire net worth is only $30 billion. Walmart could buy Sears 13 times over in a single year....

Now my point to the original post was that you can't say "Walmart brings jobs to the community" because it doesn't. On average a community will lose more jobs than Walmart makes, and those jobs are generally of lesser quality. END OF STORY.

14 years ago @ KATU - Portland, OR - Schools superintendent... · 5 replies · +4 points

From my point of view that is what I see out and about everyday is morons, so the fact that you want to raise the bar kinda shocks me. I just think what we are seeing is humanity, a small minority that are Einsteins, Teslas, or others are capable of higher thought and that majority are as you mentioned. As our population grows the minority will always diffuse into the majority unless we make laws preventing such (not really for that). The belief if we just had better (insert teachers, books, floors, walls etc) is merely flawed logic based on the idea that the majority can learn and become better with the same brain as everyone else. That somewhere if a person just worked harder they could achieve better results. We have the proof that it's flawed to even think that way. We are on the border of proving that it requires first the right parts, ie the brain.