I am new to this post so please be patient. My name is John Williams. My sister and I just bought a 1989 Blue Bird School bus with a detroit diesel, an automatic trans, air brakes, and a conventional front end. We thought about a flat nose, but they cost a lot more to purchase and a whole lot more to maintain. Our budget is very small and we want to document everything and keep up with the receipts so we can show that you can use what you have sitting around and yard sales, ebay, craigslist, etc to create a family project that will be very rewarding for our kids. We have already arranged the bus seats into a wonderful lounge area that can sleep 4 people just by moving 2 cushions! We are making curtains and seat covers from sheets and scrap material. We want to take the bus to our schools to show the kids how recycling a bus and some "obsolete" items can create something special. The guy I got the bus from has another one identical to this one for $1000 if anyone is interested. Call me if you want to swap ideas about your dream. John Williams 252-349-2441 or Ginger Hunter 912-270-4478.