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15 years ago @ Glenn Beck - The 912 P... - Organize This through ... · 0 replies · +1 points

I agree, I cannot be 100% sure of Glenn's motivations and sincerety. But the premise of the argument (the value system must come back to the individual and thus the mainstream) I believe is correct. I think a lot of good can get done. I don't care who has the good idea. The idea is good- now lets take it and run with it.

15 years ago @ Glenn Beck - The 912 P... - Organize This through ... · 0 replies · +1 points

news,
Why go through all the trouble; centrifuges, enrichment of a nuclear warhead.
Killing in any form is tragic, and no less tragic when domestic peacekeepers are targeted. But lets not lose our target. People were killed by a person. We have to turn our attention to these pressing social concerns that are manufacturing violent maniacs. The focus on the removal of tools in which violence is propagated, indeed, amplified as about as good as treating the symptoms vs the cause of a medical illness. Take away the guns (achohol prohibation shows that you cant), and criminals use knives, bombs, poison. How many times has a car been used as a weapon. People running down other people in crowded malls, or crossing the median looking to take someone with them. LETS OUTLAW CARS!
Freedom isn't free, the lost in Pittsburg illustrates that there is a cost associated with the populise bearing arms. Removal of firearms is removal of personal responsibility.

15 years ago @ Glenn Beck - The 912 P... - Organize This through ... · 1 reply · +2 points

If thats scares you, think of how scary it would be to be a house robber in Montana...

15 years ago @ Glenn Beck - The 912 P... - Organize This through ... · 0 replies · +1 points

I know I'm going to have to take a serious look at the way I vote. I'm going to have to go through the effort and research ALL the candidates (even the locals- grassroots after all begins from the bottom up). I'm pretty much going to abolish the vote by party lines default, too many people running around with a R or a D by thier name, looking to get elected to represent a standard they themselves don't understand.

We should require, not as law, but by encouragement via our vote that they post a journal of their working days on the hill, what was discussed, what thier view was, along with a nice home page describing who they are, and what they stand for.

If they can't do that, we can replace them with someone who can!

15 years ago @ Glenn Beck - The 912 P... - Organize This through ... · 0 replies · +1 points

I know some people reading your comment are going "what the heck!".I too have played sim city, and while looking back I cannot say it was the BEST use of my time, it was helpful in managing the buget of bureaucracies. On a side note how did you get a balanced budget with zero taxes and earnings strictly off of exports? Wow, what a town! Oh man, now I'm going to have to start playing all over again...

15 years ago @ Glenn Beck - The 912 P... - Organize This through ... · 0 replies · +1 points

Case in point, Guy X feels that this is not a good use of time because "Glens just making it (tears) up".
We hear that a lot. Ok.
Guy X viewpoint is valid because he cares, he doesn't want to see a bunch of good people 'dooped' over what he considers a false act of emotion. For the record I cannot say with 100% accuracy whether in fact Glenn was crying because he cares about the country. I believe so, I'd like to believe so. And it that hope that brought me here. and to guy X I say that while Glenn started this project, its not going to end with him. People will carry on the hope that was reflected in those tears for what the people believed they saw- not whether or not it was actually there. I care because I CARE and I'm going to use any site or soapbox neccesary to find other people who care too.

15 years ago @ Glenn Beck - The 912 P... - Organize This through ... · 1 reply · +2 points

I don't condone hate in any form. If you resort to using inflammatory statements in a comment debate, you lose the debate. That said I wouldn't advocate simply drowning out those who view points differ. By and large decentors care, or they wouldn't be spending thier time pointing thier view out.

15 years ago @ Glenn Beck - The 912 P... - Organize This through ... · 1 reply · 0 points

We need to be careful with the Line Item Veto, every president asks for it, i think Clinton had it once and even then not for long. If 'we the people' feel we've granted the government too much power, the line item veto would only add to that power. #6 is in there because you want something done about pork spending, I don't like prok either but could you imagine a piece of legislation with 98 bad little things and 2 really really good things, and the good things being line veto'd?

15 years ago @ Glenn Beck - The 912 P... - Organize This through ... · 1 reply · +1 points

Don't feel bad, it was in the spirit of humor, you even mentioned that in the begining. Humor- humility is there a correspondence there...
Anyway it was funny, and funny doesn't always mean nice.

15 years ago @ Glenn Beck - The 912 P... - Organize This through ... · 2 replies · +1 points

I hesitate speaking for you ed. Only you know the nature of your situation. I can only speak from what I know. I'm sure in the small town of 3000 people or so in Texas, everybody more or less see's eye to eye. In Flagstaff where I'm from, it is the political opposite. I'm the one who's ideals lie on the periphery, and being out numbered 20 to 1. My arguments were either too weakly defined, or I didn't voice them enough. Alot of entitlement money serves the function of an economy here, and its difficult to make people see any other way without it.
You could be one of the few, the proud patriots. I'd need more info to be certain. My opinion is not important anyway. What matters is, if you have your ducks in a row, your ready to move on to the next step in the project by finding a solidarity in values amongst your community.
See what common ground you can find amongst them, or if you like a challenge, among the people you disagree with the most here. Everybody who is here cares on some level, or they wouldn't be here. That is basically the bedrock on which these comment posts exists.

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