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15 years ago @ Puffy Shirt - Darwin, Yahweh, and Sc... · 0 replies · +1 points

I just got out of a class on this topic, almost explicitly. This is the exact argument and thought progression of the last 200 or 250 years of American liberal theology (German as well, but the class doesn't explicitly cover Schlaermacher and others). It is quite fascinating to say the least that this is same exact thing I took notes on today from guys in the 19th century and early 20th century. The early 21st century is no different.

I realize that I have said nothing of substance or value to add to the conversation. Honestly, I don't have time to elaborate because I need to clean my house and mow the yard before I catch a plane to Oklahoma. This is my excuse, and I'm sticking to it!

15 years ago @ Puffy Shirt - TULIP, pt. 6: Persever... · 0 replies · +1 points

I prefer the order HUGES simply because it says HUGES.

15 years ago @ Puffy Shirt - Interview with Brian M... · 0 replies · +1 points

Nelson,

Your tone and rhetoric are not helpful. Although I agree with you that McLaren is mostly propagating an old liberal theology which in a large part is heretical, I do not think your tone was helpful. Largely, Brian McLaren's tone is what has a lot of people running to him. He's genuinely kind, thoughtful, and loving.

Now, I realize you can make the argument (and I would) that loving someone out of a spirit of openness like this whole Ramadan fast thing he's doing is really not love at all. It's misguided at best and in effect will support (no matter what BC says to the contrary) a view of the world that will ultimately damn his friend. If he really loved his fasting, meditating friend, he would share the imperatives that Jesus shared, namely to repent and believe that He is the only one sent from the Father for men to be saved.

And to stand up for you (Nelson) a bit, I don't think you're perverting the message, but maybe more the tone of the message. The fact that Jesus spoke harsh things about families being split and burned up like chaff and some being children of the devil does not give license to be unnecessarily harsh in tone.

-Chris

15 years ago @ Puffy Shirt - C.S. Lewis and Space A... · 0 replies · +1 points

I want to go visit Yellowstone National Park now :)

15 years ago @ Puffy Shirt - Interview with Brian M... · 0 replies · +1 points

Did not inspire me too much. I suppose politics is not my bag.

I completely agree that Americans don't have a very sound view of the "Kingdom of God." But, again, it always comes down to how one defines it and what purpose, role, and places it fits into.

I feel like I just read a politicians watered down take on some things... basically didn't really say anything of substance.

Honestly, I'm not trying to be a cynic. I re-read his answers but can find no relief!

15 years ago @ Puffy Shirt - They're Not Going To M... · 1 reply · +1 points

Thank God that the Christian gospel stands alone apart from every other gospel in this world. Jesus Christ is the only one who can merit salvation and he has stood and is standing in our place. We are truly a wicked generation, honoring God with our mouths while our hearts are far away. Our future hope is and can only be in Christ alone.

15 years ago @ Puffy Shirt - I am trying to destroy... · 0 replies · +1 points

You are absolutely correct. There is much more to this thing than most Christians know (understand) and unfortunately more than most pastors preach.

15 years ago @ Puffy Shirt - I am trying to destroy... · 0 replies · +1 points

I neglected the most important part of this post:

8 “And to the angel of the church in Smyrna write: ‘The words of the first and the last, who died and came to life. 9 “‘I know your tribulation and your poverty (but you are rich) and the slander of those who say that they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan. 10 Do not fear what you are about to suffer. Behold, the devil is about to throw some of you into prison, that you may be tested, and for ten days you will have tribulation. Be faithful unto death, and I will give you the crown of life. 11 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. The one who conquers will not be hurt by the second death.’

15 years ago @ Puffy Shirt - A(n) Old Generous Orth... · 0 replies · +1 points

Tommy, this misuse of language goes way beyond reading of Scripture. Take this case for example based on a true story:

Let's say a certain group of professors sign an a statement of beliefs to teach at a school. Let's say that one of the professors states that surely you don't mean we have to literally interpret the beliefs but can believe them metaphorically. Then the boss says, "You're fired." The professor comes back and says, "You can't fire me! I have a contract!" The boss replies, "Well your contract was metaphorical in nature and I'm interpreting differently."

If your view of language is indeterminate than you can never say anything is capital "t" True. And this is the great problem with an indeterminate, everything-goes Biblical hermeneutic. We must interpret Scripture with Scripture first, and not by some abstract statements about language and cultural.

15 years ago @ Puffy Shirt - Signs of Unity: "You L... · 1 reply · +1 points

The times of political stalemate have been the best times for our country. When Congress doesn't have a majority one way or another nothing gets down which means we are governed less, which means we prosper more.

I can't really prove this statement because I'm basically restating what my goody buddy Justin Cowan said. He's the smart guy I know when it comes to more specific examples of this "stalemate" in action.

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