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15 years ago @ Glenn Beck - The 912 P... - Vent through May 13th · 0 replies · +1 points

Excellent! Show your friends too, we need to present the truth to people so they can have an informed mind and then hopefully make thoughtful decisions that affect this country.

15 years ago @ Glenn Beck - The 912 P... - Vent through May 13th · 0 replies · +1 points

Also, this helped me understand how the left comes to a different conclusion when talking about freedom and liberty. Denis Prager is the one who does the explaining, he brings up many good ponits.

15 years ago @ Glenn Beck - The 912 P... - Vent through May 13th · 0 replies · +5 points

Here is a good youtube video on what makes The American Value System unique from any other country in the world. It also shows how to many Americans end up subscribing to the European system and not the American system of values. In particular, it provides a great explanation of the understanding of American Liberty vs. European Liberty.

View it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nn4IH3yng4k

Let me know what you think.

15 years ago @ Glenn Beck - The 912 P... - 4/30/09: PRESIDENT'S 3... · 1 reply · +1 points

good observation.

15 years ago @ Glenn Beck - The 912 P... - Vent - through May 3rd · 1 reply · +1 points

If God is the goodness (in people) He would have to therefore be good, in essence its claiming the same thing. But I agree that no one knows with absolute certainty the truth about God, which would follow that you (for the sake of our discussion and not as an attack) don’t know with certainty either that you are right. It would make sense not to bicker as you pointed out earlier. I guess it just seems religious people get criticized for making absolute truth claims about God but at the same time the critics are making absolute truth claims about God as well (i.e. no one knows Him). It’s a two way street kind of thing. Religious vs. non religious (to generalize) both have the right to express what they believe and neither should be silenced but it would be wise for both to consider when and how they present their ideas. Anyway, thats been my thought while reading all these responses.

15 years ago @ Glenn Beck - The 912 P... - Vent - through May 3rd · 3 replies · 0 points

And how do you know that "goodness" in people that you see all the time is actually God? How do you know God is even good? I also see "goodness" in people but I also see "badness" in those same people at times...based on your reasoning it would then follow that the devil is the badness in all living beings as well.

I think it's more reasonable based on "seeing" to conclude that goodness in people is just that....goodness...it may derive from God but to conclude it is God is a stretch unless you can show me otherwise.

15 years ago @ Glenn Beck - The 912 P... - Vent - through May 3rd · 0 replies · +1 points

Wow that was quite a debate. I did watch the show I don’t think Glenn intent to mock Christian’s beliefs, but localized it to the pandemic fear. I wasn’t offended to your degree.

However it may have been thoughtless of him sure and intent doesn’t always excuse things. I believe he does have the actual right to do what he did but it may not have been prudent.

But I don’t think we want to start the “public apology” game like the left does so often, when it comes to being offended. Then anyone can claim offense to anything and demand public apologies, it could then lead to offense by omission as well and apologizing would be like breathing. I don’t expect him to apologize to socialists or communist just because it’s their belief system.

Also, by playing this game you may have to make a public apology to Christian amillenialists, for your “true Christian” remarks, who do not interpret the second coming the same. And we can play the “that’s your opinion” game all day long too. As Christians we need to be “slow to get angry” (James 1:19)

15 years ago @ Glenn Beck - The 912 P... - Vent - through May 3rd · 0 replies · +1 points

I checked it out, it seems to have the same set up as thenational912project site....13,000 members is a great start!!

If anything, I hope my post will help others who are looking for trusted 912 sites.

15 years ago @ Glenn Beck - The 912 P... - Vent - through May 3rd · 0 replies · +1 points

Thanks for that, I think I will check it out. Even though I think a centralized orginization would be great, I'm glad to see so many things taking place at the same time.

15 years ago @ Glenn Beck - The 912 P... - Vent - through May 3rd · 0 replies · +1 points

Wow that was quite a debate. I did watch the show I don’t think Glenn intent to mock Christian’s beliefs, but localized it to the pandemic fear. I wasn’t offended to your degree.

However it may have been thoughtless of him sure and intent doesn’t always excuse things. I believe he does have the actual right to do what he did but it may not have been prudent.

But I don’t think we want to start the “public apology” game like the left does so often, when it comes to being offended. Then anyone can claim offense to anything and demand public apologies, it could then lead to offense by omission as well and apologizing would be like breathing. I don’t expect him to apologize to socialists or communist just because it’s their belief system.

Also, by playing this game you may have to make a public apology to Christian amillenialists, for your “true Christian” remarks, who do not interpret the second coming the same. And we can play the “that’s your opinion” game all day long too. As Christians we need to be “slow to get angry” (James 1:19)

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