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10 years ago @ http://www.belfasttele... - British and unionist p... · 0 replies · -6 points

He is deluded, brainwashed and biased beyond belief and redemption. He is nothing but a liar. This much is obvious.

10 years ago @ http://www.belfasttele... - British and unionist p... · 0 replies · -5 points

I am not even going to honour that pile of BS with a reply, Amonrosier. What you just spouted was nothing but lies, lies, lies.

10 years ago @ http://www.belfasttele... - British and unionist p... · 1 reply · -8 points

Yet again another republican likes to forget the fact the security forces stopped far more attacks and bombings from happening. If it wasn't for their hard work and professionalism, the IRA would've murdered at least 10,000 people. The security forces did their job, and took losses as a result.

10 years ago @ http://www.belfasttele... - British and unionist p... · 1 reply · -8 points

Where do you get my justifying the murder of Finucane? I did no such thing. And as for the British security forces helping the loyalists, is that why they jailed just as many loyalists as they jailed republicans?

The loyalists were helped by a few rogue soldiers and policemen.

10 years ago @ http://www.belfasttele... - British and unionist p... · 0 replies · -4 points

I agree. Their day will come soon enough when the victims finally get the support and funding they need from legal advisers and politicians to take those responsible for most of the murders to the European courts of Human Rights.

10 years ago @ http://www.belfasttele... - British and unionist p... · 5 replies · -6 points

That's the thing, Amonrosier, it was never a war. It was a dirty, squalid sectarian campaign of tit for tat murders mostly carried out by republican and loyalist terrorists. The British army and RUC made damn sure it didn't become a full scale civil war. They contained both groups of terrorists well enough to infiltrate them and stop thousands upon thousands of attacks, bombings and kidnappings.

A war is when two sides draw lines in the ground, wear uniforms, and actually fight each other. This did not happen in NI. It was a murderous campaign carried out in the shadows, behind balaclavas.

10 years ago @ http://www.belfasttele... - British and unionist p... · 0 replies · -1 points

You seem angry, Jimmy. I've condemned the loyalists and their murderous ways often enough. I'm not using Jean's death to score any political points, I'm merely making a point. I don't like the hypocrisy of SF, and the way they seem to pretend they're the only ones who suffered during the Troubles; when the fact is, they caused the most misery out of all terrorist groups.

I condemn the death of every single innocent man, woman and child during the Troubles - whether it was at the hands of the republicans, loyalists, security forces or the RUC. It was all wrong. But SF can't do this. They think their losses were unjustified, while the murders they inflicted were justified under the pretext of 'war'. They were allowed to shoot to kill; but the British security forces were meant to arrest and jail. It's hypocrisy at its most sickening.

10 years ago @ http://www.belfasttele... - British and unionist p... · 0 replies · -2 points

Jolly-bodger, you seem to have forgotten the number of terrorists who were released from prison at the time of the GFA. They did arrest as many terrorists as possible. But there were a few times when arresting terrorists would've been deemed too dangerous, as they were extremely heavily armed - in some cases better armed than the police themselves. The proportion of arrests outweighs the number of times the police had to shoot to kill. This alone tells you the RUC did not operate a shoot to kill policy at all.

To be killed for being a protestant is not a reason, just sectarianism. This is why I said that. A reason would be if she was indeed caught red handed passing on information to the security forces, but this never happened. Jean was murdered because she was a protestant. She has been exonerated by Nuala O'Loan and the Police Ombudsman in recent years. Now, knowing this, it does mean she was killed for no reason but the fact she was a protestant. You understand me?

10 years ago @ http://www.belfasttele... - Sinn Fein mystery as e... · 1 reply · -1 points

I understand what you're writing about, but by doing so, you simply reminded the unionists just how many terrorists have been given influential positions in SF. The fact SF is using the denial card means there's something more to this than meets the eye - and this causes even more division and mistrust.

As for the DUP being lead by the paramilitaries, they are silent when it comes to condemning the actions of the UVF against its own community. They've also shared platforms with these terrorists; standing shoulder to shoulder in the public glare. On the 12th, the same politicians can be found marching with the same terrorist bands too. The same goes for SF; especially Gerry Kelly, who marched side by side with the IRA in Castlederg last year. This says a lot. I do believe both SF and the DUP need to do more to distance themselves from paramilitaries in order to progress and lead NI into a true and lasting peace. I doubt it'll ever happen. This is why I'm voting for NI21, and so should everyone else, from both sides of the divide. Lets take the votes away from SF/IRA and DUP/UVF and give them to a party without any ties or links to any paramilitaries, the OO, and sectarianism in general - and show the world we mean business in our search for everlasting peace.

10 years ago @ http://www.belfasttele... - British and unionist p... · 5 replies · -4 points

I condemn wholeheartedly this terrible murder carried out by loyalists, with help from rogue agents of the state. It was wrong, just plain wrong. Yet, having said that, lets put things into context here. Finucane's murder was but one of thousands inflicted against innocent people - and the very people who are trying to score cheap political points out of this man's terrible murder are the same people who themselves were complicit in murders just as evil as this one. It's shows nothing but their hypocrisy.

The civil rights movement was hijacked by an extreme militant movement; in order to facilitate and implement a sectarian campaign against protestants in general. I actually agreed with the civil rights marchers and their movement. If I were around in those days, you would've found me marching alongside them in solidarity. This all changed when the PIRA decided to hijack it for their own murderous, sectarian aims and agenda by killing protestants indiscriminately . Bloody Sunday was not the catalyst for the Troubles: the formation of the sectarian PIRA was. They have only themselves to blame for the 38 years of mayhem and murder that followed, and no one else.

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