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11 years ago @ Equestria Daily - Analysis: Understandin... · 0 replies · +1 points

That's exactly it, though - we can't even agree on what term a male poorly-written character should be called, and even if they do warrant it at all for what are usually the same sort of flaws.

What you are referencing is a particular kind of Mary Sue, which is not the only kind others think of when they use the term. So if I may ask, since you seem fairly reasonable: What does that say when we can't agree on what flaws a Mary Sue exhibits, only that the character is female, and the accusation baseless when used otherwise?

11 years ago @ Equestria Daily - Analysis: Understandin... · 0 replies · +3 points

Hrm... not up to my usual caliber of reply. It's really the last line which says all you need to know about his intransigence, isn't it? I get the impression a rational tone wouldn't work here. *clears throat*

Wow, xTSGx, you have opened my eyes and warmed my heart. Until you came along, I had no idea that terms can have origins, or that once they're ingrained in popular culture they are never used for other meanings ever again. And of course we'll pretend the original usage wasn't sexist either, nope. Woosh - sexism averted! It's alright. You don't have to think today.

Or recognize that a problem doesn't have to be the worst thing in the world before you can start solving it.
Or when someone says there's a problem, you don't hunker down in your shelter to avoid it.
You work to fix it like an adult.

You don't need to take me at my word, of course, but I'm guessing you wouldn't read the rest of my links, either. Impasse. I suppose I will return to my imaginary, never-existed Tumblr account, and brood over your flawless logic.

11 years ago @ Equestria Daily - Analysis: Understandin... · 4 replies · +3 points

Mary Sue means different things to different people, such that it's often difficult to agree on a definition beyond 'something resulting from poor writing'. Depending on who you ask, it's someone who's perfect, someone who always gets what they want, someone who's too powerful - but always a character that falls flat for them because of poor writing (I'll refrain here from granting legitimacy to Mary Sue as "character [you] don't like"; the other definitions can all have supportable arguments).

Given that - Why do we need a gendered term for a poorly-written character, anyway?

Most characters accused of being Mary Sues are female. The term for it is a woman’s name. Some people even claim that men cannot be Mary Sues (or Marty Stus or whatever) at all. Think about that. Female characters are annoying for being ‘too awesome’, but it’s just impossible for a man to be too awesome.

11 years ago @ Equestria Daily - Discussion: What In th... · 0 replies · +2 points

I was worried when I first clicked on this thread, but it has been very enlightening so far. I'm glad to see others who don't agree with the "all drama is bad!1" mentality, and draw the line at harmful material.

I've also found several people I don't ever want to associate with, which sort of just demonstrates the original problem.

11 years ago @ Equestria Daily - Discussion: What In th... · 1 reply · +3 points

She was also doxxed and stalked in real life. From the rest of your comment, was that 'fun to watch', too?

11 years ago @ Equestria Daily - Discussion: What In th... · 0 replies · +1 points

It's nice to see others with the crazy opinion that that sort of abuse and harassment isn't okay.

11 years ago @ Equestria Daily - Discussion: What In th... · 0 replies · +1 points

Agreed wholeheartedly.

11 years ago @ Equestria Daily - Discussion: What In th... · 0 replies · +3 points

It's a nice sentiment, especially for matters of pure opinion, but I find it tends to be over-broad in ignoring all complaints and criticisms regardless of legitimacy. Some dark corners of this fandom are actively harmful. I don't think it's the best strategy to stick one's fingers in ones ears and shush people who 'complain' about it, as that just allows those they are criticizing to do more harm. Shine a light on the shadows which give all of us a bad reputation.

11 years ago @ Equestria Daily - Discussion: What In th... · 5 replies · +8 points

There's a lot to dislike about bronies in recent months (such that I don't know anymore whether I'm proud or ashamed to have that moniker), but I guess I'll just stick to the sexism. Femininity is a good thing. Feminism is a good thing. This is a feminist show, made by feminists, to provide good role models to children.

Children will always be the target audience, no matter how many winking references and special edition toys are made. You are a guest here. Act gracious and respectful. When you wonder why so many other people and ex-bronies seem to hate the Friendship Is Magic fandom so much, know that a large part of it is due to the incredibly vocal, intensely misogynistic (and otherwise bigoted) sections that you'd prefer to think don't exist in what is obviously such a loving and tolerant and safe place. If you see that happening, you have to speak up, because in silence you are telling them it's okay to shout their hatred louder.

I don't like seeing something that brought me so much joy and renewed faith in humanity become so toxic and hateful towards each other. Please. I want to love this fandom. Give me a reason to believe it can be safe and accepting again.

11 years ago @ Equestria Daily - Discussion: What In th... · 0 replies · +4 points

Thank you. It's nice to scroll through this thread and be reminded that there are, occasionally, still decent people hanging around. Be nice if more people voiced this instead of sweeping it under the rug as 'drama'.

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