Globespotter

Globespotter

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652 weeks ago @ Living Life Abundantly - ACN Review: Scam Or Not? · 0 replies · +1 points

OK - here is how I understand your bizarre logic - 100% of the people who stay in ACN long enough to earn $1000/month or more earn $1000/month or more. (Clever.) If you don't agree that only 3% of the people that join make any substantial amount, then provide the % that do, otherwise your argument is somewhat empty.

652 weeks ago @ Living Life Abundantly - ACN Review: Scam Or Not? · 2 replies · +1 points

Aster, If ACN was upfront about providing the average income for recruits then nobody would sign up. If ACN was upfront about exactly how many recruits make over $1000 per month, nobody would sign up. If they were upfront about the fact that the real income comes from the $499 fee and not the 'services' then maybe people would consider it a more honest business opportunity, and they would not have to hype the lure of making lots of money and then hound people to recruit.

And please don't post a snippet of my response out of context: "The second reason is to hide the fact that the 'services' they sell are just a cover so they are not running an illegal pyramid scheme." is what I said. Read: they are NOT running an illegal pyramid scheme.

If your figures of 80% of new businesses failing is correct then 20% succeed. That is certainly better than 3%. All I expect from a business opportunity is a more honest upfront approach: Pay your $499 fee and by helping to recruit your friends and family ACN and you will make money. If not, then you will lose your $499. Not hype about selling services, riches from residual income and hiding where the real income is coming from.

652 weeks ago @ Living Life Abundantly - ACN Review: Scam Or Not? · 4 replies · +1 points

Yes - If I apply for a job, they tell me exactly what my salary will be. If I open a business, I do the research to estimate revenue, expenses and profit. ACN deliberately does not give out numbers for what the average person makes for two reasons. The first is that the whole appeal of ACN and MLM in general is to entice people to join by making it seem like it is not too hard to make lots and lots of money. The reality is that less than 3% of people who join will make any substantial amount, and only at the expense of others. The second reason is to hide the fact that the 'services' they sell are just a cover so they are not running an illegal pyramid scheme. Residual income from customers phone services is not where they - or the recruits - make their money - at best it is just enough to look like a legitimate business. The real income comes from the $499 fee that every recruit pays. That is the 'pyramid' money that the bulk of which goes to the 3% of people at the top of the pyramid, while the 97% of the rest either work like slaves, alienating friends and family with the promise of riches, or are smart enough to cut their losses and drop out - which is ok, since that is why the pyramid does not collapse. New recruits are there to take their place and pay their $499.

653 weeks ago @ Living Life Abundantly - ACN Review: Scam Or Not? · 0 replies · +1 points

MLM - Same leopard - different spots. MLM has been around for a long time, and ACN is no different. Less than 3% of the people who sign up will make any substantial money. 97% will not. Those are the facts. I doubt that Aster is making the kind of monthly income he claims from ACN. I would have to see proof of that, because knowing exactly how ACN compensates people, to get to the level required in a few years would be almost impossible even for the very best salesman, and they would have to break the ACN rules of only 'warm selling' - that is to people you know like friends and family. ACN is VERY careful about NOT releasing stats on income per level or average income for reps. You don't have to be a brain surgeon to understand why. If you are willing to alienate friends and family for the promise of wealth, but an extremely low chance of actually getting rich, then ACN is for you. If not, then stay away from ACN or any MLM scheme. If it seems too good to be true - it is.

653 weeks ago @ surya says too much. -... - what do we value? · 0 replies · +1 points

654 weeks ago @ surya says too much. -... - what do we value? · 2 replies · +1 points

Right on Surya! I am so going to respond to this one - but I am going to blog my response - so stay tuned....

654 weeks ago @ surya says too much. -... - it's always the same. · 0 replies · +1 points

It is amazing how we adapt to our situation. On the high side, when we earn more money, most of us fairly quickly adjust to spending it and raising our living standard to match our income. On the downside, we are forced to do the opposite (except when we still have access to credit). You are right about the Stock Market. When it was falling, I spent almost every day watching it and buying in at 'bargain prices'. Now I have stopped watching it and don't spend much time thinking about it. Humans are a funny lot. We react strongly to events and big changes, but when the news becomes old, we really lose interest. Maybe it's some kind of ancient defense mechanism :)

654 weeks ago @ surya says too much. -... - could vs should. · 2 replies · +1 points

I made it to the bottom :)

I agree with you, although get the feeling we are in a shrinking minority. It should always be 'Do what you should' rather than what you 'could'. The more people buy into the 'everyone does it - so it must be ok' mentality, the less we even think about whether or not it is the right thing to do. Hey - there is hope - even Sawyer is coming around to care for others and do the right thing. (Another LOST reference for you non-LOSTies.) That's the message of LOST - redemption. It's still there for those that reach out for it.

And yeah - I kind of like 'Yes we should!'