IntenseDebate - Gailim

9 years ago @ Mark Watches - Mark Watches 'The Next... · 0 replies · +2 points

shaal lbh fubhyq fnl gung... Xven jnf bevtvanyyl fhccbfrq gb or Eb, ohg Zvpuryr Sbeorf jbhyq abg pbzzvg gb n shyy frevrf fb gurl unfgvyl erjebgr gur cneg gb or Xven

9 years ago @ Mark Watches - Mark Watches 'The Next... · 1 reply · +29 points

I'll just leave this here

9 years ago @ Mark Watches - Mark Watches \'The Nex... · 2 replies · +1 points

If you want to know why, it's because Denise Crosby wanted back on the show. so she came up with Sela and pitched the idea (complete with rapey backstory) to the producers

9 years ago @ Mark Watches - Mark Watches \'The Nex... · 2 replies · +6 points

Sela and her backstory were thought up by Denise Crosby as a way for her to get back on the show. She is the one who pitched it.

9 years ago @ Mark Watches - Mark Watches 'The Next... · 0 replies · +8 points

I think you are jumping to conclusions.

he said the majority of Nimoy's fan mail was like that. Not Star Trek fan mail as a whole

9 years ago @ Mark Watches - Mark Watches 'The Next... · 0 replies · +3 points

oh I agree her explanation was bad. I don't think anyone is saying otherwise. I think that was the writers attempt at a "Star Trek Metaphor" like the half black-half white people from TOS. I think both the audience and Odan are meant to assume she isn't into her because Odan is a woman now.

Though there was something still between them, Bev admitted she still loved Odan. The problem is it seems pretty clear Odan still wanted a romantic relationship, which Bev could no longer give her. Not to mention Odan would be staying on the moons for an indefinite period of time. Bev is not going to give up her career because she "enjoyed someones company"

9 years ago @ Mark Watches - Mark Watches 'The Next... · 0 replies · +7 points

Your absolutely right that TNG's has not done a good job representing LGBT people (especially since there were SUPPOSED to have been LGBT scenes up to now that editorial axed)

I never said you can't be critical, even I think the explanation she gave was bad

I will disagree with you that this situation was a bait and switch. The point of this episode was to examine the two sources of attraction (physical and intellectual) and represent them as a joint being where over the course of the episode the intellectual part stays constant but the physical part becomes less attractive. First with Riker who Bev describes in familial terms and then with the woman who Bev isn't attracted to at all

If Bev were bi the scene wouldn't work. her coming to grips with the fact that she needs both physical and intellectual attraction was the whole point of the episode

9 years ago @ Mark Watches - Mark Watches 'The Next... · 1 reply · +11 points

"Even talking about "sex" as being a biological thing is cissexist."

your gonna need to elaborate on that

"It doesn't get anymore simple than Odan had no gender before and has no gender now. "

Odan is not one being, it's two. Beverly wasn't sleeping with the slug

"has the sort of body we associate with being a woman "

no association required, that WAS a woman.

"So yeah. It IS homophobic and cissexist."

being strait does not make someone homophobic or Cissexist.

9 years ago @ Mark Watches - Mark Watches 'The Next... · 0 replies · +14 points

An emotional attraction yes but no physical attraction

regardless of the reason your still expecting Beverly to ignore that she is strait.

Beverly CLEARLY stated she still loved Odan in the female body. But she wasn't physically attracted to her anymore.

your strait shaming Beverly Crusher and it sucks

9 years ago @ Mark Watches - Mark Watches 'The Next... · 0 replies · +7 points

"It's that the explanation she gave Odan ("this is what humans are like") sounds very narrow, and is in fact far more narrow than humans really are."

I agree, She should have said "I" instead of "humans"

I think part of that was her being flustered and trying (and failing) to be inoffensive

IntenseDebate Comment System

Connect with Gailim

People I'm following

Gailim