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15 years ago @ Glenn Beck - The 912 P... - 4/2/09 - 4/9/09 · 0 replies · +1 points

Then What??? PART 3

How do we do that? Simple
1) We refuse to participate in Federal Level elections and instead give our consent to an alternative Citizens Assembly ( yet to be organized) that is made up of Citizens that will truly support the Constitution and are duly authoirzed to speak for the American People

2) We fully participate in State and Local Elections and support those candidates who support the concept of an alternative Assembly. ( Its much easier in most states to get "Independents" on the State and Local Ballots)

Now, obviously, This concept is not "perfected" but I believe it is a sound course of action for a Free People and if implemented would first serve as an even greater and , perhaps, final warning to the FED and the only other viable course of action would envolve open "rebellion" which I do not believe any one wants to see.

Radical? Maybe. But still civil and lawful ( at least for the time being) and exemplary of those actions taken by our Founding Fathers

15 years ago @ Glenn Beck - The 912 P... - 4/2/09 - 4/9/09 · 0 replies · +1 points

Then What??? PART 2
We can "vote em all out"! And what replace them with others chosen for use to choose from by the very same peopl that gave us the continuous flow of despots that got us here? Not likely.

Well We can "vote third Party!" Yeah Right! when was the last time there was a successful Third Party , Oh I know 1860. Why? because those in power have so fixed the election process as to ensure they stay in power. Period ( sorry but that one's obvious)

Well Then what can we do?

Here's an option, A very Constitutional on in fact.

Seeing how "governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed"why don't we just "withhold our consent" and give it, in stead, to another truly representative body that WILL speak for the American People.

15 years ago @ Glenn Beck - The 912 P... - 4/2/09 - 4/9/09 · 1 reply · +1 points

Then What??? PART 1
I'm not sure if this is the right place to share this thought but here it goes;

What after the Tea Parties? Do we realy expect Washington to just roll over and "Stop the Madness" that is stipping us more and more everyday of our God Given Liberties or reverse their consentration of power which they have been working on achieving for decades. No. This is NOT gonna happen. Don't get me wrong I am fully behind the TEA PARTY Effort however I think we need to be thinking beyond the "Fair Warning" that is all these protest.

Well this then begs the question of "Well What can we do?"

15 years ago @ Glenn Beck - The 912 P... - America's Wish List · 0 replies · +1 points

Then What??? PART 3

How do we do that? Simple
1) We refuse to participate in Federal Level elections and instead give our consent to an alternative Citizens Assembly ( yet to be organized) that is made up of Citizens that will truly support the Constitution and are duly authoirzed to speak for the American People

2) We fully participate in State and Local Elections and support those candidates who support the concept of an alternative Assembly. ( Its much easier in most states to get "Independents" on the State and Local Ballots)

Now, obviously, This concept is not "perfected" but I believe it is a sound course of action for a Free People and if implemented would first serve as an even greater and , perhaps, final warning to the FED and the only other viable course of action would envolve open "rebellion" which I do not believe any one wants to see.

Radical? Maybe. But still civil and lawful ( at least for the time being) and exemplary of those actions taken by our Founding Fathers

15 years ago @ Glenn Beck - The 912 P... - America's Wish List · 0 replies · +1 points

Then What??? PART 2
We can "vote em all out"! And what replace them with others chosen for use to choose from by the very same peopl that gave us the continuous flow of despots that got us here? Not likely.

Well We can "vote third Party!" Yeah Right! when was the last time there was a successful Third Party , Oh I know 1860. Why? because those in power have so fixed the election process as to ensure they stay in power. Period ( sorry but that one's obvious)

Well Then what can we do?

Here's an option, A very Constitutional on in fact.

Seeing how "governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed"why don't we just "withhold our consent" and give it, in stead, to another truly representative body that WILL speak for the American People.

15 years ago @ Glenn Beck - The 912 P... - America's Wish List · 0 replies · +1 points

Then What??? PART 1
I'm not sure if this is the right place to share this thought but here it goes;

What after the Tea Parties? Do we realy expect Washington to just roll over and "Stop the Madness" that is stipping us more and more everyday of our God Given Liberties or reverse their consentration of power which they have been working on achieving for decades. No. This is NOT gonna happen. Don't get me wrong I am fully behind the TEA PARTY Effort however I think we need to be thinking beyond the "Fair Warning" that is all these protest.

Well this then begs the question of "Well What can we do?"

15 years ago @ Glenn Beck - The 912 P... - America's Wish List · 0 replies · +1 points

Reply to Nixome2003;
The Constitution sets terms for Congress, the Senate and the President. What your advocating is well within the perview of the individual States to enact within the Constitutional framework. I believe this "Wish List" is directed at what "We the People" want regarding the scope of the Federal government. Then again I may be wrong ;-)

15 years ago @ Glenn Beck - The 912 P... - America's Wish List · 1 reply · +4 points

If I can Only pick Ten then the following is a good place to start!

1)END THE FEDERAL RESERVE
2) TERM LIMITS (12 YEARS TOTAL)
3) CONGRESS ( AND STAFF) ARE TO BE PAID BY THE STATES THEY REPRESENT.
4)FAIR TAX-NO INCOME TAX
5)"LOBBYING" LIMITED TO A INDIVIDUAL CONSTITUENTS FROM YOUR DISTRICT ONLY
6)STANDARDIZED AND "LIBERAL" BALLOT ACCESS LAWS
7)CLOSE THE BORDER & FIX THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION PROBLEM
8) STRICT CONSTITUTIONAL LIMITS ON THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
9) NO ENTANGELING ALLIANCES-STRICT NEAUTRALITY FOREIGN POLICY
10) PERSONAL SOVEREIGNTY(?) -GET THE GOVERNMENT OUT OF MY PERSONAL/PRIVATE LIFE!!!!!!

15 years ago @ Glenn Beck - The 912 P... - Books · 1 reply · +4 points

Start a new Congress. When a government is not working ( protecting the inalienable rights of its people) "it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it" Declaration of Independence.

15 years ago @ Glenn Beck - The 912 P... - Books · 2 replies · +1 points

I agree, "terms" are not the issue (we have the ultimate term limiting power already- vote them out) to me the greater problem is the system that is designed to perpetuate the continuity of power; ballot access laws, the ability of the "Parties" to dip from the public tough, "winner (50.1% vs. 49.9%) take all" representation, equal access (to media) for all viable options, and ultimately our own support for the guy who will "bring home the bacon'(PORK)" mentality. I fear that unless the entire political system is legally reformed (torn down and rebuild anew) there is very little hope for real freedom based change which, unfortunately, leaves us with one option (which may seem like no real option at all at first) which is to "opt out" for some mutually beneficial alternative rooted in true freedom and personal responsibility.

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