Chavez has murdered his own citizens and just seized all private property of the man who ran against him in the so called election. He has frozen his assets and on and on and this is one dissenter. As for the $4 a gal for gas, Obama, just last summer, stated on TV that he agreed the price of gas should be that high but it just "got there too fast". Not only can you look forward to higher gas prices, wait until Cap and Trade becomes law, all forms of energy will be HIGHER! Watch out for water and electric bills to more than triple.
No where in our values does it state not to point out truths and our President should never go and seek the hand of a ruthless dictator on his own, which Obama did. Wake up People!
In your adament desire to rewrite the founding of our country, which was inheritantly Christian until the past 40 years. It offends you so much that you can't even bring yourself to study objectively. You obviously agree with the liberals on their assualt on Christians but your "free thoughts" on capitolism keep you from going along with them in this destruction of our country. You just don't get what our founders warned, you can't have it without morality.
Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.
John Adams
Have you been to the Capitol, have you read inauguration speeches, have you read the Northwest Ordinance, have you read supreme Ct decisions, are you familiar with any of this? We DO NOT have state ordained religion - the treaty you dug up was only in affect for 8 years at which time it was renegotiated and Article 11 was REMOVED. You still haven't answered my question. What moral principles other than abortion, which IS murder, do we want to "inflict" on you in the name of a Christian Nation? What are your objections? I truly could care less what yo do as long as it is not in my face and not indocrinating my children.
That was great - and they say call the enlightened "intellectuals". America's children have been dumbed down on purpose because an educated, informed society would have never voted for this president or any others since Reagan. We would have known better.
Like mine? Your argument is denying history and what morals are we trying to impose on you? I could care less if you drink, do drugs, are gay, whatever, it is your life. The only issue I have with libertarians is abortion. Advances in science show a small fetus in the womb and it is a life, there is no doubt. Murder against the most helpless in society should be protected. Drugs, kill yourself, I don't care. I think Marijuana should be legal, it is less harmful than drinking, you want to gamble, go ahead. Prostitution - in defined areas, could care less - no disagreements.
To argue the libertarian cause by denying our history and mocking those who follow Christ is your problem. There are many libertarians supporting Ron Paul and I am proud to stand side by side with them, but they do not bash our history nor alter facts to keep from some illusion of "forced morality" that you seem so afraid of - your fears may have some base in reality if you lived in a muslim, state sanctioned country, but not here my friend.
Wow - I suppose quoting others, way after his presidency, instead of his actual words in speech after speech somehow rewrite history. He was a proclaimed Christian and you are a anti-Christianity zealot who DENIES our very history for your own purposes. No further arguments when you are speaking with a liar. Those who denounce truth are useless - not worth the time it takes to type.
Thomas Jefferson:
“ The doctrines of Jesus are simple, and tend to all the happiness of man.”
“Of all the systems of morality, ancient or modern which have come under my observation, none appears to me so pure as that of Jesus.”
"I am a real Christian, that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus."
“God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are a gift from God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, and that His justice cannot sleep forever.” (excerpts are inscribed on the walls of the Jefferson Memorial in the nations capital) [Source: Merrill . D. Peterson, ed., Jefferson Writings, (New York: Literary Classics of the United States, Inc., 1984), Vol. IV, p. 289. From Jefferson’s Notes on the State of Virginia, Query XVIII, 1781.]
Our very form of Govt is founded on Christian principles. Which do you think are extreme? What do you take offense at? As well, your Jefferson & Franklin quotes are really amusing considering many are out of context- but what our BEATIFUL CONSTITUTION GUARANTEES is freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion. Every quote you have supports this and you still keep ignoring history as somehow your views are more enlightened than were our founders. If so, let's see about amending the Constitution, but NO that would never fly so you circumvent around using progressive courts. It's a disgrace.
That is not what I was referring to but after reading my response, I can see what why you took it that way. I was replying to a statement asking why we weren’t using the courts – hardly a violent means that I was supporting. Acorn has been accused and convicted of starting violence at their rallies & against those who disagree, I was merely stating that many of us LAW ABIDING CITIZENS carry concealed weapons if they turn on us. I would NEVER advocate violence against anyone except for self defense and I apologize if that is how it sounded. I am sick and tired of these thugs getting away with intimidation tactics to where patriotic Americans are afraid to picket and go after them by civil protest.
That is not what I was referring to but after reading my response, I can see what why you took it that way. I was replying to a statement asking why we weren’t using the courts – hardly a violent means that I was supporting. Acorn has been accused and convicted of starting violence at their rallies & against those who disagree, I was merely stating that many of us LAW ABIDING CITIZENS carry concealed weapons if they turn on us. I would NEVER advocate violence against anyone except for self defense and I apologize if that is how it sounded. I am sick and tired of these thugs getting away with intimidation tactics to where patriotic Americans are afraid to picket and go after them by civil protest.
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